Sony STRDA5000ES seems underpowered

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    Hey

    Had my Sony STRDA5000ES for a few weeks now and am impressed in some respects, the quality is a big step up from my STR-DB930QS but that was 110W per channel and could go bloody loud!

    My new STRDA5000 is 150W per channel but goes nowhere near as loud, just to watch a film at a comfortable level, not even anything silly and I have to have it on 0db (max is +15db), and anything over -18db you get an awful amount of hiss :(

    The speakers are Mission 783 Fronts, 78C centre and 77DS rears.

    Any Comments?

    Cheers

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    Hi there.

    I recently sold my 5000 - because it hissed and wasn't loud enough for me! Don't know if you've already done this, but assuming you've used an spl meter - you can adjust the individual speaker levels.

    As far as 150 watts per channel goes... I read the review on Home Cinema Choice online - here - on the STR-DA9000, which suggests the Fidelity Firewall or "real world power levels" are around 70 watts per channel on that monster of an amp... so I would assume a level of around 50 watts for the 5000?

    I found the Sony very clinical with DVD soundtracks - which suited my speakers - but was a bit pants in stereo... I ended up buying a Yammy RXV2400 :)
     
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    Many thanks for your reply, that would explain the sound level!!!!

    Thinking of swapping to a Denon 3805, just annoyed that you can't label the inputs on it!
     
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    Normally I watch my SONY 5000 at -12 or -14 dB. And it sound OK, loud enough. My room is 4x5 m. All speakers are JAMO CONCERT series, sub REL.
    Rarely I turn it up to -10 or -8 dB but in most movies it is too muh for me.
    Before buying I compared SONY 5000 and DENON 3805 and SONY sounded louder, cleaner and faster.
     
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    Is this a problem with Digital amps? even though they are rated highly it does not sound too good have Sony made a BOO BOO :rolleyes:

    John :)
     
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    Hmmmm, that has thrown a spanner in the works!!! I';m off to demo a 3805 on Tuesday, will let you know my findings! Do you get any hiss on your 5000?
     
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    Yes, I have a hiss. In a absolutly quiet room from my listening position at -10 dB I can hear it a little.
    But in real life it is not a problem.
    As far as I know most cinema amps with decoding on (I mean with signal but no sound) have a some hiss. Am I right?
     
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    By the way in the movie theater you can hear the hiss too.
     
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    I do not get any hiss from my speakers, that would start to annoy me if they did, especially from a listening position :mad:

    John
     
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    Recruit,
    are you sure that amp is working (decoding) and not in mute mode when no signal input is detected?
    Does anyone know what FIDELITY FIREWALL means in SONY 9000 HCC review?
     
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    Don't tell 'em that there's a hiss in cinema tracks... everybody will want an amp that hisses :devil:

    It's pretty pointless talking about what volume level you have your amp set to, unless you have it set to some sort of reference level with an SPL meter.

    Not only does the Sony hiss when nothing is being played, but it hisses throughout a DVD soundtrack - and being the stickler I am for "perfection" I found this a little annoying. Also, not being able to adjust the front main speakers independantly is a bit off.

    Like I said, I found the amp to be quite "cold" sounding, and to get it to produce anything like a warm, rich and mellow sound took a great deal of effort that never really paid off. Now I've got a Yammy RXV2400 I'm a happy chappy :cool:
     
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    You are right.
    If they all sound the same there will be no discusion at all.
    As russians say: In the world of colour and taste there are no friends.
     
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    :smashin: I've never heard that before... I really like that ;) I'm gonna try and sneak that saying into one of my DVD reviews :thumbsup:
     
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    EN yes my amp is working ok but it does sound very strange to have that hissing noise all the time.

    John
     
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    The sony STR-DB930QS was a cracking amp ,it was over done in the amp section for a budget amp and is hard to beat.I have a sony 1080 and thats no where near as powerful as the 930 i used to have.
     
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    I have to agree with you Bob, i used to own a 940 and loved it for the money the value of it was superb, i don't know if i'm over keen on the new range of digital amps and they do seem underpowered from the above findings :(

    John
     

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