As stated on another thread I went to the Heathrow HI-FI show last sunday. Finally got chance to see the new Sony S master amps in the flesh. Not overkeen on the big ugly ES range, but love the DB 2000. The salesman tried to wow me with the wonders of the new digital amps by showing me a 150 watt amp the size of a pack of cards. Very impressive, but why if these new digital amps can be so small and powerful do the new receivers have to be so huge? Still I look forward to hearing these in the near future.