Question Sony rx100 or Fuji X30 or something else?

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  1. matrixsc

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    Hello

    I asked this a while ago now but i've had a few issue in life ( work related) and i'm now getting around to buying a new camera

    I currently own a Canon DSLR but I'm looking for a compact camera just take out with me and the family more and not have a the weight of the camera with us on family days out and a up and coming holiday.

    I'm looking at buying the Sony Rx100 and also like the look of the Fujifilm X30
    But the sony Rx100 seems to have massive sensor compared to most compacts so i'm assuming this is the one to go for ? I did look at the Rx100 M2 but for Wifi and a few bits i wouldn't use not sure i can justify the price hike? , The X30 seems to have a lot on it but a small sensor which puts me off , should it?

    Will also be recording in HD too ( taking our little boy Disney world Florida soon )
    Price wise around £250 -£325

    Buy SONY Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 I High Performance Compact Digital Camera - Black | Free Delivery | Currys

    Buy FUJIFILM X30 Advanced Compact Camera - Silver | Free Delivery | Currys

    I do love the look of the canon G7x and the flip screen but is it worth the £400?



    Any advice please people it would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you.


    Thank you.
     
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    I cannot comment on the Fuji or the G7X but I own the Sony RX100.

    Like you I have a Canon DSLR and some while ago I too wanted a pocket sized camera. After much research I opted for the Sony and I have been absolutely delighted by it. Large sensor (which in my view offers a significant improvement), RAW capabilities and it is very good at high(ish) ISO settings.

    Meets my needs absolutely so in my opinion if you opt for the Sony you will not regret it.

    Oh and it falls well within your budget.:)
     
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    I love Fuji cameras but the RX100/G7x are THE compacts to buy.
     
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    Thumbs up from me for the rx100. My reasoning for needing it it same as you and it's great at what it does. I got a magnetic cpl to go on the front for outdoor makes it even better :)
     
  5. matrixsc

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    So if you were to compare the G7 X and the rx100 would everyone still go for the rx100 ( mark 1) ?

    Thanks for all your replies so far .
     
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    For an extra £100 I think the mark II RX100 is worth it. Main things for me are different sensor tech giving you approx 1-stop better noise (although some say 40% better low light performance), tilting screen and hot shoe for flash and EVF attachment. If you don't want to spend more, then maybe a 2nd hand mark ii is a wiser investment?
     
  7. matrixsc

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    One thing I do like with the canon is the full tilt screen shame the rx II only tilts a little ?

    Don't really want to buy 2nd hand unless it has at least 6 months warranty on it .

    Is there much diffrance between the g7 and RX sensors ?

    Thanks
     
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    Most online stores selling 2nd hand have 6M or 12M warranty. There's always the Sony outlet store, they come up on there quite often. From images I've seen I think I actually prefer 'the look' of the Canon sensor, but I believe that the Sony AF system is much better.
     
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    Didn't know sony had a outlet , what other stores could I check then for 2nd hand ?

    Thanks
     
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    MPB
    Camera Jungle
    London Camera Exchange
    Harrisons Cameras
    WEX

    to name a few. All have different warranties so you need to check. I know Harrisons have 12M though.
     
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    Thank you I'll take a look .
     
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    I used an RX100 and what a fantastic camera. I wouldn't bother with the
    MKII, its not enough of an upgrade imo the MKIII is but far too expensive.
     
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    RX100 is the outstanding compact camera by some considerable margin and has been for some time. Stunning IQ and video and great in low light. And so well designed as well. I'd get the Mk2 or 3 only if you wanted an EVF... not a bad thing to have to fair.
     
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    Thank you been to look at the Rx100 today and get from John lewis £289 then £30 cash back and 2 year guarantee . It did seem really good to be fair .

    Is the video good quality then ?

    And also what's the maximum memory card to use 32gig?

    Thank you for your replies.
     
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    Mem should go 64gig which is more than enough... probably take 128gig as well for that matter

    First time I took mine out was at a concert at the Albert Hall and I experimented as Id only got it an hour before concert started so was winging it. But it is simple to use. Made mistake of covering one microphone with a finger top front left of the camera. But if you can forgive the zooming clumsiness as it was at the end of an outstretched arm you can still see it pin sharp when the user, thats me, lets it do its job towards the end. It was the first time I'd used it and it was dark:blush: But overall its great for general video and family movies. Show this as it was a testing environment and apart from me mucking about with the zoom without looking at the LCD it did well. Since then I've used it a few times and always with faultless performance for family movies

    The Beach Boys - Albert Hall 2012 - California...
     
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    Thank you for the info didn't realise the mem card would go that high to be honest. I take it the video setting are standard and you don't have to alter anything even if it's at night ?

    Off to Florida Disney world soon so want to record things and take photos, Oh is it possible to take a photo while recording?

    Thank you for your info so far.
     
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    It will auto adjust things like ISO in video and you can change quality from 1080i HD to VGA in the menu if you want. But its designed to be pretty much point and shoot. Which is what you want in a small genuine pocket sized compact. Fits in a shirt pocket... get a couple of spare batteries off Amazon... non Sony ones are OK and a mains charger as the camera is designed to charge with battery in. Spare and mains charger means you can still use the camera whilst a battery is being charged back in your villa

    To take a photo whilst recording just press the shutter button, video keeps recording and is not affected. Its quite neat. You can probably freeze playback on a computer and select a scene for a still but I've not tried that.

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    ...oh and get a couple of spare...smaller SD mem cards as well..8, 16 or 32GB will do. Class10 preferably.... but Class 6 is plenty fast on a camera this size and a bit cheaper

    Transcend make will do and they are quite cheap most places online... not JL!

    SD Memory Cards from 2gb to 256gb - Buy Online | MyMemory

    You can spend a lot if you want on mem cards... your call.... but I've been using Transcend for a few years with no problem. Plenty of choices out there mind depending on your budget
     
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    I had the M2 (took it to Florida) and it had some nice features but I found it lacked sharpness (especially wide open) and the controls were too fiddly and unintuitive.

    I found the G7X to have much better controls, and the touchscreen was very useful. It was a lovely pocketable camera.

    If I was in the market for that type of camera again, Canon would get my money (as I don't shoot video).

    I opted for the incredibly sharp, and great handling Ricoh GR.

    It's a bit niche though, with its fixed 28mm lens.
     
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    Each to his own... thankfully. But I find a touch screen a pain, especially on a small camera. And the controls are simple on the Sony and I've never heard of an RX lacking sharpness.... but as I say.. each to his own :)
     
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    Huge thanks for for all the info really helpfully and the link to for the battery i was looking at something like a scandisc ultra card £15 for 32gig used it with my dslr and it's always been good.

    Very happy you can shoot and record at the same time and that the whole of the camera is pretty much a point and shoot which is what we want . Do you use any manual setting at all or would i need any to take shots of fireworks at night ?

    Thanks once more for all your time and info.
     
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    Mine was a bit soft at the corners wide open when shooting macro, but otherwise fine.

    I personally found the buttons a bit small, and I needed to add a Freniac grip.

    I liked the touchscreen on the Canon for changing focus area etc especially when shooting macro, the Sony needed a fair few button presses to do the same thing.

    Other than those minor gripes the RX was a great camera.
     
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    And it does what a great choice of cameras are out there for everyone. None of them are "clunkers" and all do a good job. Good point about the touch screen for changing focus its a good tool to have. I would use the EVF to repoint but it would be very handy. I like the Freniac grip as well.... mmm might check them out again.
     
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    Sandisk are reliable for sure. I use aperture mode most of the the time or P and depending on the light let the camera combine the aperture and shutter depending if I want the aperture open for low light or or closed up...

    RX100 has full set of manual controls so you can choose what you want as well as Auto and intelligent auto which decides what picture you are trying to take and takes care of it for you. And there is a pretty comprehensive range of scene modes including night and fireworks.
     
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    Can you make save the setting you make in manual ? Personally I'm not to sure how to set things up for what I'd be shooting but i have looked on the web and seen a couple of setting people used for fireworks and night shots.

    Thanks.
     
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    Just bought this and have it on charge now , first thing to say the instruction are useless lol

    What am i best shooting in Superior Auto or Intelligent Auto ?

    Thanks
     
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    I use both if using Auto. Intelligent is supposed to assess what you are trying to shoot and be a bit smarter over choosing settings, it does actually work pretty well. But Superior is pretty good for general stuff. If shooting night or fireworks use the SCN selection and choose the appropriate mode there... lots of other useful modes as well for night shots, macro, sunsets and so on.

    If in doubt ask here of course or for quicker answers ...sometimes ......just Google it.

    This is a good book.... a proper manual if you like. You can Kindle it as well onto you Kindle or iPad

    Photographer's Guide to the Sony DSC-RX100: Amazon.co.uk: Alexander S. White: 9781937986087: Books
     

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