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sony kf50a10 at argos?

Discussion in 'Televisions' started by mjbtin, Oct 30, 2005.

  1. mjbtin

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    Been on the Argos website and they have a Sony KF-50A10 at 1399.99,this looks identical to the 50A12 .Could anyone tell me what the difference is if any and if all the inputs are the same.This set is not in the current catalogue.

    Thanks
     
  2. logiclee

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    I think they have made a mistake, the A10 is the American version of the UK's A12U.

    Not sure if some other EU countries also have the A10.

    Only the A12 has the UK connections and a Freeview tuner.

    Cheers
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    the 10 is eire model the 12 is uk :thumbsup: the sets have to be different as lee says its the freeview :thumbsup:
     
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    Thanks for the replies guys,been back on the Argos website and the info reads
    'integrated digital tuner'I thought this was freeview.On the website it is listed under lcd and plasma not rear projection.

    Thanks again
     
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    It's probably just a mistake on Argos' part. In that case, it probablyis the A12. As Logiclee has pointed out, I also thought the A10 was the American version reviewed on CNET HERE

    :)
     
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    Just back from yet another Currys/Comet/etc viewing trip (with the wife this time) and looks like it's going to be the SONY (as opposed to the Samsung SP46L6) - there is so little to choose between them :confused: - each having their good (& less good) points, that the other one doesn't, if you catch my drift.

    Anyhow, for this thread popped into Argos and picked up their Xmas Catalogue Supplement - and yes - it is the A12 that is advertised. Argos website needs to be changed !

    Interestingly though, whilst Argos price is much the same as elsewhere (£1399), they dress it up by saying the Stand is free (RRP £249). Other posts on this TV have suggested that the 'free stand' may only be available until Xmas. This may well suggest this is the case.

    Also the Argos blurb mentions a free 3 year Guarantee using an 'in pack' leaflet. Now I'm not sure if it refers to the TV or the Stand ? If it's the TV, then it brings Argos into the choice of outlets to purchase - and I recall they have a no quibble 16 day money back guarantee - just in case you are not 100% satisfied.

    Worth considering :smashin:
     
  7. Orchard Rebel

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    Kourosh

    Don't think the A10 is necessarily the Irish model. I bought mine in Cork yesterday and the model no. is KDFE50A11E. The model appears to be identical to the A12U, including a digital tuner and card slot, which seems strange given that we don't have Freeview here in Ireland (well not officially anyway! ;) ).

    Given the countries named in the setup and the inclusion of a digital tuner , the A11E appears to be a pan-EU model, covering countries with DVB broadcasting and those that don't.

    Felix

    PS Out of interest, the price was €1,999 (about £1,360) but only came with a one year warranty :( .

    PPS Great telly though :thumbsup: - although my eyes are a little sore from the upgrade from a 27" LCD. Hoping to match it up with the Sony DVP-NS 92V which is due out here in a fortnght. My dealer told me it's worth holding on for, as it will include an HDMI output, as well as Smart Link with the TV.
     
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    What will the 'smartlink' feature enable you to do?
     
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    From what I understand, the Smartlink allows greater communication and control between two products, e.g. the selection of a function on your TV, may automatically trigger a function on your DVD (EPG/Recording, On/Off etc).

    It's been around a while in various forms and I think it's possible to interconnect with similar technology of other manufacturers.

    What I think the dealer was driving at was that there is probably greater functionality in going for the DVP-NS 92V than there would be if, say, I selected the Samsung HD850 or Toshiba SD350 to accompany the KDFE50.

    What interested me more is that he thinks that it is going to be a far better piece of kit than either.
     
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    The A10 model in the States has instead of an composite/svideo in on the side, a component in by the way.
     
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    Ah, I see. Just like SCART AV control or something like that! Thanks Felix! Most check up on this Sony you are talking about...
     
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    hi felix
    i will look in my sony manual when i go back to work on tue's i knew the eire model was different but couldn't remember if it was 1 above or 1 bellow

    ,i dont usually study the non uk pages :rolleyes:
    the extra warranty is only supplied by stores that want to its not something that sony offers,dont forget sony dont own the stores they are franchises.
    the 92 is already out over here,it came out a couple of weeks ago :thumbsup:
     
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    Felix, did you purchase this set from the cork sony centre?
     
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    Hi Lukej,

    I got it from O'Callaghan TV in Oliver Plunkett Street. I did speak to both Sony Centres in Cork and was offered the same price (€1,999) and warranty (12 months) that I got in O'Callaghan's. All three stores have the same supplier and received their quotas on Saturday morning, so there was nothing in it really.

    I went with O'Callaghan partly on service grounds and partly because Mrs Felix wouldn't leave the store without us buying it :thumbsup: . Bit of a shock for her when she got home and saw how high it is on the stand. You wouldn't want to be watching it on a futon ;) .
     
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    Thanks Felix. The specs seem really good on this and it seems quite reasonably priced too. The one thing that bothers me though is that it doesn't seem to have DIVX support. Even my budget Philips has this. I find that rather odd and it may put me off buying it a bit. I have a gew DIVX files I like to play on my DVD player.

    Thanks :)
     
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    The DVP-NS92V DVD player will have a list price of £200 in England according to my local Sony shop.

    At that the Denon 1920 looks a better buy IMO.

    Denon 1920 Clicky

    Cheers
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    this set is not hd ready
     
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    The HDMI port and the "HD Ready" sign on my A11 model would suggest otherwise. Logiclee and others have already confirmed that the A12 model is as well.
     
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    No problem Vipergrm. Thanks for the info on the Denon 1920 Logiclee - I will also be demoing that one before buying.

    Kourosh, I know this is not directly a rear pro question but have you had a chance to demo the NS92V yet? Is it any good with the KDFE50?
     
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    if we are talking about the kf50a10 it is not hd ready. have a look at pricerunner sony kf50a10 at lx direct
     
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    I see nothing there to suggest that this set is not HD Ready - indeed it appears to me that LX Direct have merely mis-labeled the A12, are selling it for an extortionate price and have a pretty rubbish description on the connections available?
     
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    there is nothing to suggest that the tv IS HD READY. argos lx direct and great essentiels all have this as the kf50a10 and not one says HD READY what makes you think it is HD READY ? have all these shops got the model number wrong ? is your set got the grand waga engine as these sets say they have got i thouhgt that the 50a12 was a bravia set.
     
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    cheers for the info felix :thumbsup:.
     
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    the 11 is the number for eire :smashin: the 10 is for usa,but on plasma and lcd the 10 is for eire :smashin: so many numbers :confused:
     
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    The top item on the info for the Argos item says "Bravia". I'm sticking to my initial view that these companies have just mis-labeled / spec'd the tv's.
     
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    Cheers Kourosh. God only knows what the logic is behind that. :rolleyes:
     
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    hi felix,ive tested the 92 but it was on 40"lcd and to be fair it was quite good,but i have tested the rdr-910 sony hdmi hard drive recorder on the 50" and that was excellent the machine is quite expensive £699 retail but well worth it as it upscales freeview through hdmi,i will be going for this player after x-mas as im about to buy yamaha ysp-1 speaker soon and x-box360 :rolleyes: so many things so little money :D
     
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    move up :thumbsup:
     
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    Nice one Kourosh, thanks. Will look to demo both, although I may just settle on the 92 as I already have sky+ and am looking to stop gap until the HD-DVD/Blu Ray dispute is resolved (or at least until I can persuade the missus that a Playstation 3 is a good education tool for our daughter :devil: ).
     

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