Sony KDL 40V3000 or 40D3500?

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  1. Bob G

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    Given up on the 40W3000 because of current reported issues. Any help on an alternative choice would be more than welcome.
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    The V3000 just adds 1 HDMI and a more stylish design
     
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    V3000 adds the extra HDMI, as Chris says, but also an optical output, more stylish design and complete tweakability of the red, green and blue channels, via service menu.

    I bought one yesterday and am completely satisfied with it.

    Cheers,

    Mike
     
  4. Bob G

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    Thank you both very much indeed for taking the time to advise me. Seems as if the choice is a V3000. Robert Whyte of Glasgow appear to have some very good offers on -anybody dealt with them before?
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    Lots of people have, I believe, with success. I think I'm right in saying their customer service is very good.

    You might want to check out the TV classifieds in AVForums as I've seen a few V3000's for sale that are basically in new condition.:smashin:
     
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    Thanks Sly Fly.
    Bob G:thumbsup:
     
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    Probably mostly from the £899 40V3000 & PS3 deal.... £600 for this TV was a good price (and dare I say a price that more realistically reflects the picture quality??)

    Chris
     
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    Whilst £600 is a good price for the tv, it certainly doesn't reflect picture quality.

    A properly set up panel is pretty astounding, once calibrated and not far short of the W or X series.

    Cheers,

    Mike
     
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    A very useful contribution Christ. Thank you so much. :clap:
     
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    hmmm i can see what your saying but I would say that price more reflects the features you are missing rather than picture quailty per se. I had that deal and sold the ps3 for 240 so 660 for the tv which is superb value. If I can be objective and ignore the fact I got that deal , I would probably say its still a good tv at 850..... espcially compared to the alternatives at that price level
     
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    What features are you missing?

    Yes, the X and W are 10 bit panels, but this is not noticeable in the real world, with ambient lighting and such.

    Yes, they also zupport x.v. colour, but I've found that calibration with this switched on is nigh on impossible and you can get better results without it.

    Inputs and features are identical to the W series (individual R G B settings are accessed via the service menu on the V), so you get brushed metal instead of piano black surround and a funkier remote.

    Save money, get a V - I did! Oh, and in case you are thinking I don't know what a proper high end set looks like, I work with them all day long in a tv studio!

    Cheers, Mike
     
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    I third that opinion. Like all TV's time needs to be taken to fiddle around with the settings, but at the moment I am EXTREMELY happy with the TV. :)

    Most of the comments I've read about poor picture quality have centred on SD pictures, and even then only from those without an HD box.

    SD Via my TV Drive / V+ box... not bad at all (almost as good as my old CRT)
    The one HD channel via same... very good.
    Blu-ray and PS3... astonishing.
     
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    I was all set on a Tosh 40XF355 or 42Z3030 but this thread has started me thinking about the 40V3000, does it have any known problems like the Toshiba's do? how does it handle Blu-Rays and HD-DVDs at 24fps?
     
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    Actually I agree with you 100% I was being devils advocate mentioning the features as people pcik you up on the slightest thing sometimes. I suppose the mainthing "missing" is 100/120hz but then I've disliked every implementation I've seen.....
     
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    I am running Blu-ray, via PS3 and HDMI, into my 40V3000 and it's running at 1080p/24fps with no trouble at all - no jerkiness or any other issues.

    As far as I know, there are no known problems. There may be one or two that have clouding issues, but you'll be extrememly unlucky to get one of these.

    Cheers,

    Mike
     
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    Is the absence of Digital Audio Out on the V3000 a disadvantage?
     
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    The V3000 HAS got an optical digital output. It is the D3500 that excludes it.

    If you are going by the online comparator on Sonys website, it is wrong, as is the quoted power consumption - it is 194 watts for the V3000

    Cheers,

    Mike
     
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    Lack of x.v colour would indicate the HDMI's are not 1.3 also. Not that that's a big deal.

    skipton, does your V3000 suffer from colour smearing? If you have a PS3 this would be an easy test to do with some like Call of Duty 4 or the XMB menu. I had a W3000 and it had some awful smearing, same with the X3000. The D3000 suffers too.

    Right now i'm thinking all the latest range is the same, but i've heared the V3000 uses the same panel as last yrs w2000, which didn't have this problem. But then again, according to the specs, V3000 has the same contrast/black level as the W3000 which smeared like crazy on blacks/reds.

    Any v3000 owners upgrading from the D3000 range notice the same colour smearing?
     
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    Nope - no smearing here!

    Cheers,

    Mike
     
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    I was thinking of getting a 40 or 46X3500. Would anyone advise me against this? If so, what would you suggest as "THE" TV to get?
     
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    Back in the real world, if you like/want the X-series styling, then there's nothing else really to match it (not my cup of tea - I prefer the surround to fade into the background), so the X3000 or 3500 it is.

    As to performance, the law of diminishing returns comes into play: as you get higher, the rewards are more and more slight for the extra outlay.

    Be sure though that you want 100Hz pictures, as many people dislike this technology, even though it is meant to improve motion control.

    As to the rest, well, you get Bravia Pro (instead of Bravia Ex on the W or Bravia engine on the V) and S-force Pro speakers, and x.v. colour. Most of these technologies are gilding the lilly and are put on to high-end sets to improve the perceived value, but in reality, you can do without them.

    The W-3000 is a good compromise, as you get a few toys, but cost is less. The V is even better (in my view) as you get more beer tokens left over! These can be put ot good use on things to actually watch on your new screen, like Blu-ray discs and players - what's the point in shelling out £2k when you'll just be watching SD programming!!!???

    Cheers,

    Mike
     
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    The price reflects the money people are willing to pay taking the market situation into consideration.
     
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    The watts really depend on the features you're using and it can go well over the 200 watts. Minimal power usage is about 110 watts. I've tested this myself.
     
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    no smearing at all with the ps3, i think freeview sometimes does but its the compression "being silly" and making a mess the way only compression can....
     

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