Sony KD-75XE9405 4K LCD TV Review & Comments

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    1. Steve Withers

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      excuse my ignorance, but how do I send a 4k signal these Sony tvs to get a low input lag. Do I need A PS4 pro? what settings sends the signal? Thanks guys.
       
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      You need to get a device that can output 4K signal like a 4K Blu-Ray player or Web streaming service that supports 4K like Netflix or Amazon.
       
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      @Steve Withers, any sign of the Hisense 70" FALD 70NU9700 for review? it appears we will not get the 75" version.
       
    5. Steve Withers

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      If you're talking about 4K gaming then you're looking at a PC rig, Sony PS4 Pro or the Xbox One X.
       
    6. Steve Withers

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      Not yet but I'll be seeing Hisense this week at IFA.
       
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      How does this compare to an Oled if everything gets 9/10?
       
    8. SonOfSJ

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      @Steve Withers Damn! I've been waiting like a coiled spring for this review for the last ten days, I wanted to be the first person to respond. I've just got back to my desktop computer and I see that I've missed the boat!

      Ah well, never mind. Mr Withers, I have one observation and three questions.

      The observation is that you quote its price as being £4899 in August 2017. That is indeed the price at John Lewis and at Currys, but in fact it's £500 cheaper than that at Richer Sounds, only £4,399, here Sony 75 inch 4K Ultra HD HDR Smart LED Android TV Freeview HD.

      Question 1. Many people on the owners' thread of the Sony 65ZD9 and 75ZD9 televisions say that their contrast is even better than that of the best Pioneer and Panasonic plasmas of yore. I don't expect that you did a direct comparison, but you have had until very recently a Pioneer LX5090 plasma, the last (9th) Pioneer plasma generation. From your memory, and I do realise that without the two machines being side-by-side it's difficult to say, how do the black level and contrast of this new Sony KD-75XE9405 compare with those of your Pioneer LX5090 plasma? (Of course, the black level of even a good FALD LED set can't hope to match the black level of an OLED such as your new LG 55B7.)

      Question 2. You mention viewing angles in the review, they are fairly narrow, as I would expect for a Vertical Alignment LED panel. Could I press you to put a specific number to the angle at which colours and contrast begin to deteriorate? For instance, both the Samsung and Sony Full HD LEDs in my parlour and kitchen are good for viewing up to about 30 degrees laterally left and right from the centre, hence a 60-degree arc overall.

      Question 3. This Sony was also reviewed in the current issue of a print magazine, Home Cinema Choice, where it saw off three OLEDs in a group test! It has also been very well reviewed in another British based online review site. So with your review, that makes three different reviewers who are impressed with the television. You know that I would like to buy a 75-inch television with good contrast and HDR, and ideally 3D. So far, I have been thinking of the Sony 75ZD9. You didn't review the 75ZD9, but you did review the smaller 65ZD9. So, my question is (given that my existing Sony, Samsung and Panasonic televisions all do 3D), apart from 3D, is there anything - upscaling, motion handling maybe, black level and contrast, precision and effectiveness of the local dimming, better control over HDR highlights, screen uniformity etc - that the existing £6599 Sony 75ZD9 does sufficiently better than the new £4399 Sony KD-75XE9405 to justify the £2200 price difference?
       
    9. Steve Withers

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      Personally I think it compares very favourably, yes there are certain areas where OLED remains superior but the XE94 looked stunning with HDR and at £4,399 it's significantly cheaper than a 77-inch OLED.
       
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      Sorry to post off topic :blush:

      But could you kindly get them to confirm the release date for the 75N6800 please?

      I contacted their customer service and they stated September but as there is literally no information out there I'm concerned that it may be a set destined for markets other than here.

      Any info would be very much appreciated.

      Thank you
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      Great review. Looks like they've done a great job at a large size too.

      This Sony would be something I'd possibly consider if we weren't ploughing all out money into our extension:( looks like it'll have to be an edge lit for us this time round.
       
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      @monsieurblack No, no, NO, don't do it (buy an edge-lit model). To paraphrase a television advertisement from about a decade ago, you know it makes (no) sense. Don't waste your money on an edge-lit model which will not be as good as a FALD for serious movie-watching. I respectfully suggest you manage with whatever your existing television is for the next few pr several months until you can afford this new Sony 75XE9405, and its price will also fall with time.
       
    12. SonOfSJ

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      Well, there's certainly no gainsaying that! Significantly cheaper being slightly more than a third of the price of the last few of the outgoing 2016 OLEDs, the LG 77G6 at £12K, or less than a quarter of this year's LG 77G7 at £20K ....
       
    13. Steve Withers

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      In answer to your questions Ken:

      (1) The black levels on the XE94 are excellent and I have often been surprised at how 'plasma-like' they appear on this and previous generations, although obviously without the pixel level of precision.

      (2) The optimal viewing angle is within a 30 degree arc either side of centre.

      (3) As far as I can tell the ZD9 and XE94 are very similar with the former being a bit brighter and obviously having more dimming zones, however I don't think it's worth the extra £2,200.
       
    14. SonOfSJ

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      @Steve Withers Muchos gracias, merci beaucoup, vielen Dank for your post #13. Clearly I have some hard thinking to do. I have had the 75ZD9 in my mind for about a year now. With funds being pretty tight, I have to seriously consider whether it's worth paying the extra £2200 for the 75ZD9 mainly just to get 3D, which in all honesty I've not watched even twice this year so far. Hmm .... in a way it would be easier to still pursue the 75ZD9 if this new KD-75XE9405 wasn't so good! :)
       
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      I thought of you as soon as I saw the review! :D

      I would imagine people troubled by relatively narrow viewing angles living in some very large houses!
       
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      @big boss Haha, thinking of me indeed, you are too kind. This or the 75ZD9 .... The viewing angle doesn't trouble me because it's the same as those on my existing LCDs, which are firing down the (slightly) longer ends of both parlour and kitchen, so for me - other people's arrangements may differ - 30 degrees off-centre in one direction is fine. All the seats that you can see in my avatar are within a 60 degree central arc.
       
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      Fingers crossed this gets down to about £3000 at the start of next year and I can get one.
       
    18. SonOfSJ

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      @MikeTVMikeTV You mean, drop from £4399 to £3000 in only four months and three days??? You must be hallucinating.
       
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      Thanks for the review Steve.

      Did you try any actual gaming and if so how did it look? Good enough for casual gaming?
       
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      You could always incorporate it into the build and make it into one of the walls :)
       
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      1. £4,400 for this tv or £8,000 for the 77" G7?
       
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      You've missed the boat on a 77" at that price ;) - they're back up to RRP.
       
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      To support what @steelman1991 says, also see my post #12.
       
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      Was a hypothetical question as I wouldn't spend £4,400 on a tv let alone £8,000! :laugh:

      £3,000 is my psychological limit. Though I will wait until a 65" B7 OLED or similar is less than £2,500.

      Would love to know how many 77" G7s have been sold at £20,000!
       
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      No offence, but I was interested to hear Steve Wither's opinion.
       
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      I know it was - hence the ;)
       
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      Ah. I have to admit, I really don't like the smilees on this forum. Maybe it's just me, but that winking smiler looks far too smug rather than a friendly wink! The smile smilee is over the top. Don't see why I can't just use my phone's smilees anyway!?
       
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      We all have our limits for various things in life. Still, your £3000 limit means that you won't be buying a 75" FALD set.
       
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      I'm not sure I would want to. Have my heart set on an OLED at the moment. Though I do have this thought that a 75" LCD might be more impressive than a 65" OLED just because of the sheer size of the thing! Regarding price, I am prepared to wait for tech to fall into my price bracket: as long as it takes!:)
       
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      I didn't literally mean the 1st of jan, but Q1, I be they get very close to three grand by March.
       

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