Any initial thoughts on how these two compare? Have'nt yet dipped my toes in the water with DVD recorders, I'm mainly interested in getting a good upscaled Freeview image onto my Sony HS50 projector via the HDMI connector, then good hard disk recording technology (ability to skip adverts would be nice), oh and a decent quality DVD image would be nice. Is the DVD playback on these machines pretty respectable, say compared with the Denon 1920 which seems the best value stand-alone machine currently? I know you have to compromise somewhere but it would be good to have a single machine to perform more than adeqauately on the dvd/freeview front. Cheers for any help.