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Sony HS50/51 reviewed

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by homeagain, Oct 20, 2004.

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    Unfortunately the review is on Widescreen Reviews subscriber website.
    But the figures are now floating around the american AVS forum :
    With lamp in high mode, auto iris on and contrast adjustment maxed the new Sony delivers a contrast ratio of 5834:1 :eek: with light output of 658 lumens. After calibration to D65 CR measured 4000:1 and 400 lumens output.
    It'll be interesting to see what Cine4home.de can achieve with a filter and calibration. There was some concern with regards SDE on an 8' screen but that CR measurement has me hooked !
    Cheers, Rob. :smashin: Oh, And no VB on the review sample !
     
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    anyone want to buy my ae700 :blush: :laugh:
     
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    :rotfl: It just gets better. Looks like I'm finally going to fall off this damned fence now that the AE700/Z3/HS50 reviews are coming in and get the Sony.
    I've found a preorder price of £1716 at a Swiss online dealer, hopefully UK prices wiil drop to that level.
     
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    Or maybe below, but who knows ;)
     
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    oooooh, is that a promise? :p :p
     
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    :thumbsup: Benji, you've got a customer here if the price comes down to that level ! Let me know ASAP, I'm finally off the fence and I've got the splinters to prove it :eek: .
    Cheers, Rob.
     
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    Ladies and gentlemen, it looks like we have a winner................... now to hear how independent reviewers compare black/colour performance with DLP to put the matter to rest.

    Sean G.
     
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    That contrast is just insane, I can't quite get my head around that somehow
     
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    Ben do you have any idea when you might be getting the HS50 (assuming that you are planning to stock it) ?

    Is does seem rough that we get the HS50 in Europe (and not the HS51) which seems to lose the Ethernet port and Image Director software
     
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    yea mate any ideas when u will have them in i think im sold on one as well
     
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    i'm very interested too if you manage to get any ben.
     
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    That piece of understatement goes for me too :thumbsup:
     
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    This really could be promising, would still like to see how it compares to a dlp, but i suppose at sub £1,800 it appears to be a bit of a deal.
     
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    :D Funny you should mention DLP ! The actual measured D65 CR of 4300:1 is the highest CR measured by Widescreen Review for a digital projector ~ LCD or DLP, beating the Yamaha 1100, Sharp 12000 and 10000, Marantz S3 and BenQ 8700. The Yamaha came closest @ 3600:1.
    I was so close to ordering the AE700 :devil:
    Cheers, Rob.
     
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    Come on Benji
    Give us some details on the Hs50.
    I e-mailed you and asked you in another thread a few days ago. :lease:
     
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    The full, non-subscription, review is now available ... clickety-click
     
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    Thanks for the link to the review.


    I was close to ordering a H77 until i heard the rumours about the Sony HS51
     
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    ;) You beat me to it Cwik ! Nobody could ask for a more thorough review.
    Read and weep as they say, Rob. :hiya:
     
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    Was that measured on a "normal" projection screen or on that new one from Sony with the "BlackScreen" technology?

    I remember reading that someone saw the HS51 on CEDIA and said that they were using that BlackScreen. Also the methods used of measuring the contrast ratio were questioned... they suspected Sony used some other method? Don't ask me which one, I'm not an expert on that. Just to let you know that's what I've read somewhere in the beginning of the AE700 thread on avsforum. :)
     
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    Aquila, I used to subscribe to Widescreen Review when I lived over there.
    The details of their review rooms are listed in the magazine and unless they've changed recently they use Stewart screens for equipment reviews.
    Definitely not Sonys BlackScreen anyway.
    Also this is an independant review and CR measurement, no need to accept Sonys sales blurb. I like WSR reviews, they're technical and if they don't like something they'll tell you and why.
    Cheers, Rob. :hiya:
     
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    You're right Rob, the review at Widescreen Review does seem to be genuine.

    A contrast ratio of 6000:1 is just so mind-boggling I thought there had to be a catch to it or roughly translated from Dutch "there had to be a snake in the grass" :D
     
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    Not sure I understood the technicalities (sp?) of that review.

    I wonder if it will be much of a step-up from my Sony HS1 :devil:

    I want one.

    Sheks
     
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    Haven't read that review yet, but the contrast ratio sounds pretty amazing.

    That said:

    Screen door is still a big concern to me. It took me out of the film with the Hitachi TX100.

    The zoom on the AE700 meaning that I don't have to ceiling mount.

    AE700 will work out cheaper, though this may not be valid if Benji's hints turn into something good.

    Also - the epson 1080p post throws a spanner in the works - haven't had a look at that since last night. I'm once again caught between getting something this year or losing a whole year or more of my life waiting for the 1080p LCD chip projector.
     
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    Zoolap, To quantify the SDE on the Sony Bill Cushman says that it was only visible on 8-9' screens in extremely bright scenes and that he sees more SDE on direct-view CRTs and plasma displays. Also, I can't imagine the initial release of the 1080P LCDs will be at this price level. But who knows how much and how soon ?
    Cheers, Rob. :smashin:
     
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    The review has just about changed my mind completly on getting an end-of-line deal on a HS20, but i've just had an e-mail from AV Land confirming the HS50 should have a scart socket which to me is a huge + point. But, they also stated the HS50 will use a different sized panel (1280x788). If this is true why the hell have Sony done this?!?!? :suicide:

    Talk about another spanner in the works!! :confused: :D

    Regards,
     
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    I think they're telling you porkies. The manual for the HS51/50 doesn't mention scart, and indicates that both have the same 1280x720p panels.
     
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    ...or do what I did and look for a cheaper 2nd hand alternative. For my current needs, my AE100 wouldn't have carried me over the next couple of years, but at the same time I didn't want to fork out for an "interim" new model with HD panels just round the corner - knowing we could be looking at 1 to 2 years until they hit the street.

    The PJ market is still extremely volatile with new models hitting the shelf often whilst outgoing models are still fresh in the customers minds - and I reckon this trend will continue for sometime yet. Even when full HD specced machines hit the market, new and improved cheaper models will appear for a good while after whilst the technological improvements are embraced.

    For now then my AE500 will tide me over until the advent of true HD machines appear, and only until the technological advancements of such PJ's cool, will I then be happy on spending in excess of 3k of my hard earned.
     
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    Cheers for the info cwick,
    I'm a tiny bit disappointed about it not having a scart socket but am very happy about it having a "standardised" 1280x720 resolution.

    Thanks,
     
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