Which issue?Thanks for the feedback. Do you mind if I ask you another question seeing as you had the AF8 previously; is the Dolby Vision over hdmi issue fixed with the new Sonys?
Which issue?
Sony's implementation of Dolby Vision was Player/source led as opposed to TV led as their SOC was sh*te! This resulted in a terrible (IMO unwatchable) Dolby vision experience. So for example on the A1/Af8, & possibly af9/ag9 if you watch a DV show on the internal Netflix app, it would look good, bright. If you watched that same DV show on a Netflix app on an external HDMI device blu-ray player, or Apple TV for example with same picture settings it would be very dim, again unwatchable IMO. Vincent Teoh stated in his A80J review that DV implementation is now TV led. That issue..!
I am also interested to know whether ABL kicks in during gaming? I know Vincent mentioned FIFA and the screen dimming, but is this only when HDR is in use?Can I also ask does the screen dim when playing hdr games with a static content on it such as a mini map? Something to do with the automatic brightness limiter automatically clicking in that you can’t disable?
Can't say I've noticed it myself....certainly not an issue when watching. I had the xf90 prior to the A80J so screen coating was similar so can only assume I'm used to it. Personally think the Matt effect is better than the gloss on most oleds but whether the effect impact is determined by viewing environment I can only say it's fine in my home.....and if you determined buying a TV or not on issues alone you'll never have a TV lol....all TVs have issues of one kind or anotherI'm considering buying the 65 inch a80j. After initially upgrading my LG c7 oled to the xh9505 I really miss the oled blacks. Also, the Sony is far too bright as most of my movie watching is in the dark. It seems every time I see a TV there is some kind of issue that keeps cropping up with the one in mind. I keep seeing that the 65 inch a80j has a semi gloss coating which some people find an issue. Can someone shed some light on this based on personal experience with this TV?
When you say XH9505 is too bright, do you mean for SDR viewing or HDR viewing? When viewing HDR content, providing it has been filmed and mastered correctly, the APL (average picture level - a fancy way of saying the standard brightness of a scene) should actually be the same between SDR and HDR content its just the darks are better and the bright highlights are very spectacular, along with the wider color gamut afforded by the rec.2020 colour space.I'm considering buying the 65 inch a80j. After initially upgrading my LG c7 oled to the xh9505 I really miss the oled blacks. Also, the Sony is far too bright as most of my movie watching is in the dark. It seems every time I see a TV there is some kind of issue that keeps cropping up with the one in mind. I keep seeing that the 65 inch a80j has a semi gloss coating which some people find an issue. Can someone shed some light on this based on personal experience with this TV?
When you say XH9505 is too bright, do you mean for SDR viewing or HDR viewing? When viewing HDR content, providing it has been filmed and mastered correctly, the APL (average picture level - a fancy way of saying the standard brightness of a scene) should actually be the same between SDR and HDR content its just the darks are better and the bright highlights are very spectacular, along with the wider color gamut afforded by the rec.2020 colour space.
So could you clarify further your comment of too bright?
Yeah for SDR viewing in a dark room, Brightness (backlight on Sony LEDs lol) should be at 3 or 4 out of 50 for approx. 120 nits brightness with extended dynamic range Off or Low for a little bit of extra pop. For HDR, Brightness should be max with extended dynamic range High.I just find that oled is more suitable for my dark room viewing. I like the black bars in movies to be solid black, this is what I miss about my c7 oled which is now in the bedroom. I find the occasional light bleeding into the black bars with my xh9505 during hdr movies. It also does seem very bright to me in a completely dark room. This is even with the brightness level dialed down to between 1 and 10, and hdr is at 30, 50 being maximum.
Yeah for SDR viewing in a dark room, Brightness (backlight on Sony LEDs lol) should be at 3 or 4 out of 50 for approx. 120 nits brightness with extended dynamic range Off or Low for a little bit of extra pop. For HDR, Brightness should be max with extended dynamic range High.
Even the newer OLEDs will be a fair bit brightet than a C7 although you do benefit of couse from the no blooming and infinte contrast ratio
Yes true. As much as I enjoy the xh9505 I just can't settle because of it not having inky blacks. My original post was to do with the so called semi gloss screen on the 65 inch A80J and people's opinions of it. That's the TV I'm set on getting, was also considering the C1. I do love the Sony look with movies, natural looking skin tones and great out of box calibration.Yeah for SDR viewing in a dark room, Brightness (backlight on Sony LEDs lol) should be at 3 or 4 out of 50 for approx. 120 nits brightness with extended dynamic range Off or Low for a little bit of extra pop. For HDR, Brightness should be max with extended dynamic range High.
Even the newer OLEDs will be a fair bit brightet than a C7 although you do benefit of couse from the no blooming and infinte contrast ratio.
I was worried about reflections when looking for an oled tv since they are all made of glass and reflect like a mirror. But I have to say that the reflection handling with the semi gloss screen on my 55 inch is excellent! I'm glad an oled exist with this type of coating, even though most people seem to want to avoid it.I'm considering buying the 65 inch a80j. After initially upgrading my LG c7 oled to the xh9505 I really miss the oled blacks. Also, the Sony is far too bright as most of my movie watching is in the dark. It seems every time I see a TV there is some kind of issue that keeps cropping up with the one in mind. I keep seeing that the 65 inch a80j has a semi gloss coating which some people find an issue. Can someone shed some light on this based on personal experience with this TV?
That's good to know mate. As most of my TV watching will be in the dark anyway I can only assume it would be a non issue. Are u enjoying your a80j?I was worried about reflections when looking for an oled tv since they are all made of glass and reflect like a mirror. But I have to say that the reflection handling with the semi gloss screen on my 55 inch is excellent! I'm glad an oled exist with this type of coating, even though most people seem to want to avoid it.
Yep it's great! First time owning an oled, animated movies look incredible. I get impressed by end credits in movies for some reason now looking at pure blacks lol.That's good to know mate. As most of my TV watching will be in the dark anyway I can only assume it would be a non issue. Are u enjoying your a80j?
Yep it's great! First time owning an oled, animated movies look incredible. I get impressed by end credits in movies for some reason now looking at pure blacks lol.
Upscaling is very good in general once I figured out what settings to change. Still not a big fan of film grain though which I never noticed on my old TV (1080p lcd that I used for 10+ years).
Motion is fine, no problems with sports. Haven't gamed much yet but looks good too
Excellent good to know. You can't beat true blacks of an oled.Yep it's great! First time owning an oled, animated movies look incredible. I get impressed by end credits in movies for some reason now looking at pure blacks lol.
Upscaling is very good in general once I figured out what settings to change. Still not a big fan of film grain though which I never noticed on my old TV (1080p lcd that I used for 10+ years).
Motion is fine, no problems with sports. Haven't gamed much yet but looks good too