bandyka
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Yes that's what I mean they were designed to look good. I wonder what happens when you play any Bluray?
Yes that's what I mean they were designed to look good. I wonder what happens when you play any Bluray?
Yes understand but I thought HDR would have some impact on any content even though they don't have the specs?? I was told by a sales man as such but I had my doubts...
hmm I shall question the sales guy again as if HDR will look completely wrong in forced mode then I will not fork out the extra cash for the 520. I might just wait and see what JVC will have to offer next month.
Anyone know what scene / chapter that is from in life of pi?
want to check it out
From the pictures non hdr looks washed out and HDR looks calibrated, so be interesting to have a look to see
@bandyka: I stand corrected, apparently there is a kind of conversion feature in the 520ES to convert SDR to HDR. I have no idea how they can get good results, but I'm sure Ricky will let us know when/if he has a chance to test. So the dealer you told you it was possible wasn't wrong.
Here is the review which mentions it: A Review of the Sony VPL-VW520ES 4K Projector -
"First of all, the VW520ES actually also performs a series of internal content adjustments that allow it to “upscale” even non-HDR (SDR) content so that it emerges on your projection screen with a sharper level of contrast and a more richly precise pattern of light to dark shading.
This particular technology looks great for certain types of native 4K movies and even manages to look good in upscaled HD content. "
That is interesting, as that is not my experience. I am playing with the demo VW520 at this point, and have done testing on the HDR.
HDR is available if a UHD/4K signal is feed in, and then you have the chance to set on/off or auto. I have tried various UltraHD content from BT, Amazon, Netflix, Sony Streamer and various other DIY, downloaded clips. All of these look horrible when HDR is forced (the image looks totally wrong, with oversaturated colours, and extremely dark image crushing all the dark information, and no highlights). I guess I will need to get the disc and read the manual to see if I am missing anything, but certainly I have not seen this function despite playing with lots of combinations of settings...
For all those trying to compare the Life of Pi pictures. It is not worth the time to do so. It is not the best demo sample (even on the Samsung TVs), I used a phone to take the picture, and it is nowhere near what I am seeing here. It was posted just to show that it appears the Sony correctly resolves the image with a HDR source, that is all...
@bandyka: I stand corrected, apparently there is a kind of conversion feature in the 520ES to convert SDR to HDR. I have no idea how they can get good results, but I'm sure Ricky will let us know when/if he has a chance to test. So the dealer you told you it was possible wasn't wrong.
Here is the review which mentions it: A Review of the Sony VPL-VW520ES 4K Projector -
"First of all, the VW520ES actually also performs a series of internal content adjustments that allow it to “upscale” even non-HDR (SDR) content so that it emerges on your projection screen with a sharper level of contrast and a more richly precise pattern of light to dark shading.
This particular technology looks great for certain types of native 4K movies and even manages to look good in upscaled HD content. "
Well, what you describe is what I would have expected, but the review I linked to seemed to suggest something different. Let us know if you find out!
I'm glad you say something about comparing the pictures, trying to compare HDR footage with a non HDR picture on a phone viewed on a non HDR PC monitor is really pointless.
It would be like evaluating speakers on a mobile phone
But I agree it looks like the HDR clip is played properly.
I don't believe it does do that.Thanks for sharing I won't complain then. I was wondering if there was no such feature then why can you "force" HDR processing what was the point but if it does some magic it makes sense now. Questions is how well?
Thanks for sharing I won't complain then. I was wondering if there was no such feature then why can you "force" HDR processing what was the point but if it does some magic it makes sense now. Questions is how well?
Would love to report some magic, but definitely can't find it. Given up for tonight, but get back to it in a few days, when I get a chance.Well, according to Ricky, there is no magic at all and no reference to the feature in the manual, so you might want to ask your dealer what he means exactly so we can find out if it's possible or not, but right now it looks like I was right. So I stand corrected, I wasn't wrong .
Or if they actually had the projector, or just saw it somewhere or at a show, and misinterpreted some of the marketing info. Maybe they should actually be talking about Reality Creation and not HDR?Would love to report some magic, but definitely can't find it. Given up for tonight, but get back to it in a few days, when I get a chance.
Not sure what the review is actually talking about? The review seems fairly non-tech to me, makes me wonder how much technical analysis they did of the projector?
OOK so all very nice and confusing, called the dealer and apparently in about two weeks time they will have them in stock, I shall go in and see myself. Meanwhile eagerly waiting more info on here.