Sonos Sub - allow for 5.1?

Scapegoat

Well-known Member
With the release of the Sonos sub woofer - does anyone think it would be possible for Sonos to ever allow a 5.1 setup?

It would be expensive - 5 x Play 3 + sub - but it would allow a pretty good 5.1 experience if you could get the soundtrack from a Sky / DVD player to connect to the system. You'd link them like you do a stereo pair at the moment.

And when not using it - move the speakers round the house and have multiple zones again.
 

amcluesent

Well-known Member
IIRC Sonos were hiring for an engineer with AV experience a while back. It's been assumed the SUB would be be used with a new PLAY:1 to keep it affordable. All speculation!
 

Andy8421

Novice Member
I think the challenge for Sonos is they have no server smarts - they can't pre-process the audio stream, and each player receives the full bandwidth audio flow. The play 3 / 5 seem smart enough to figure out when a sub is present and adjust their dsp so that they filter out the LF and leave only the sub playing the LF to keep the audio balance.

I think this is the reason that the sub wont work with a ZP90 (or whatever it is called these days) as the ZP90 can't process the stream to filter out the LF.

Given this topology, I can't see how you could do 5.1 as there is no box to figure out what goes where. They could of course introduce some sort of AV 5.1 box that did do the processing - then the sub / play3 play 5 could figure out what was going on.
 

neilball

Well-known Member
Andy8421 said:
I think the challenge for Sonos is they have no server smarts - they can't pre-process the audio stream, and each player receives the full bandwidth audio flow. The play 3 / 5 seem smart enough to figure out when a sub is present and adjust their dsp so that they filter out the LF and leave only the sub playing the LF to keep the audio balance.

I think this is the reason that the sub wont work with a ZP90 (or whatever it is called these days) as the ZP90 can't process the stream to filter out the LF.

Given this topology, I can't see how you could do 5.1 as there is no box to figure out what goes where. They could of course introduce some sort of AV 5.1 box that did do the processing - then the sub / play3 play 5 could figure out what was going on.
The reason for leaving out the ZP90 is more Lilly due to the inability to keep volume levels matched - most commonly the ZP90 is set to fixed output with volume control via the system to which it connects (AVR's in many cases) and this means it is difficult to keep the sub gain matched to the speakers.

It does not seems to be too far of a stretch to imagine Sonos could introduce an AV component capable of decoding audio and then sending it to an array of Play:3s and a sub for 5.1 or 7.1 applications. However that moves them into a very different market which would be a big departure from their current aims, so I would not be holding my breath for this. Then again, with the usual Sonos secrecy then who knows what they have on their development/marketing roadmap!
 

amcluesent

Well-known Member
Wireless, synchronised 5.1 or 7.1 feels tricky/expensive. However, just thinking about the 2.1 Linn Kiko. It shouldn't be that hard to do a decoder box which takes multiple HDMI inputs & S/PDIF input and an HDMI output for the TV. That box could stream to a couple of PLAY:3 and SUB for AV duties with the telly, then using the PLAY:3s as a L/R pair for music.

However, it still feels at odds to Sonos' wife-friendly marketing message.
 

Scapegoat

Well-known Member
Introducing PLAYBAR - The soundbar for music lovers

Looks like its on its way. But 2 x Play 3, 1 x Sub and 1 x Playbar means a £1700 system.

For that money you can get a very good stand alone AV amp and full 5.1 speaker system that will have more inputs and settings etc.

So a bit of a rip off?
 

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