Sonos Arc - 5.0.2 Dolby Atmos soundbar

brankota

Standard Member
im sure some Sonos die-hards will get their panties in a wad about this but in truth its far from groundbreaking...and in truth, its pseudo atmos as the speakers aren't above like actual Atmos
You seem to have missed the point of Sonos completely. The sonos game was never about a single unit, but about having a modular system you can build upon and enhance.

This release ties in with S2 system release which is rumoured enahances room setups and configures sound tuning for multi speaker placement including height.

Sonos have recently released the architecture series of wall, ceiling speakers so what is not to say that you can now with S2 and Arc add multiple speakers beyind the traditional 5.1 / 7.1 systems and just like true Atmos, setup and tune as many as it makes sence in your space, based on their 3d placement
 

jouster

Moderator
It’s a shame isn’t it. No matter what Sonos do you always get people saying “they should have done this they should have done that”

Let’s not forget no ones even heard one yet!
whilst I agree no ones heard it yet...pole have been asking for DTS since the PLaybar realise and HD audio is the norm for many devices nowadays....not much of a reach to expect these on a device which Sonos are pushing as they top featured device...are you saying you DONT expect to have at least DTS at this price point and you're totally happy to not have it
 

rck010

Member
whilst I agree no ones heard it yet...pole have been asking for DTS since the PLaybar realise and HD audio is the norm for many devices nowadays....not much of a reach to expect these on a device which Sonos are pushing as they top featured device...are you saying you DONT expect to have at least DTS at this price point and you're totally happy to not have it
I wont deny that i would have liked DTS support.

On the other hand, Sonos looks solely at the streaming market. Netflix, Disney+ and AppleTV all make use of the Dolby formats. From that perspective, i understand their decision to not support it. I do hope they fully support LPCM though.
 

jouster

Moderator
You seem to have missed the point of Sonos completely. The sonos game was never about a single unit, but about having a modular system you can build upon and enhance.

This release ties in with S2 system release which is rumoured enahances room setups and configures sound tuning for multi speaker placement including height.

Sonos have recently released the architecture series of wall, ceiling speakers so what is not to say that you can now with S2 and Arc add multiple speakers beyond the traditional 5.1 / 7.1 systems and just like true Atmos, setup and tune as many as it makes sense in your space, based on their 3d placement
Not sure I've missed the point at all..started with an S5 many many years ago and now have 18 devices which I've added to over that time..but I view the Sonos home theatre range for what it is, a convenience device for those not wanting what a collection of devices (amp/sub speakers) costing less than the Playbar/base/arc that will totally blow Sonos away...that's what grates me slightly (and I have TWO playbars) As I've said on the Sonos thread...Im happy it will make a lot of Sonos owners happy but I just think there should be more to it considering how long they've been playing in this space and how many users on their forums have asked for HD audio and DTS....sa Sonos have done for years...they rarely listen to what their users want...Im not saying anyone else is any better though...just that as a long time Sonos user/owner/sipporter...I think they could have done better this time around
 

Fergal82

Distinguished Member
whilst I agree no ones heard it yet...pole have been asking for DTS since the PLaybar realise and HD audio is the norm for many devices nowadays....not much of a reach to expect these on a device which Sonos are pushing as they top featured device...are you saying you DONT expect to have at least DTS at this price point and you're totally happy to not have it
I had a playbar a few years ago and the lack of dts was never an issue. Even now Sky Q, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Apple TV don’t use on it.

It wasn’t even an issue with discs as back then I had a Samsung Blu-ray player that let you force audio to Dolby 5.1. (Not sure if Samsung’s still do this)

If people need / want dts then Sonos isn’t for them, plenty of other products out there. Never understood why people can’t let it go
 

brankota

Standard Member
Not sure I've missed the point at all..started with an S5 many many years ago and now have 18 devices which I've added to over that time..but I view the Sonos home theatre range for what it is, a convenience device for those not wanting what a collection of devices (amp/sub speakers) costing less than the Playbar/base/arc that will totally blow Sonos away...that's what grates me slightly (and I have TWO playbars) As I've said on the Sonos thread...Im happy it will make a lot of Sonos owners happy but I just think there should be more to it considering how long they've been playing in this space and how many users on their forums have asked for HD audio and DTS....sa Sonos have done for years...they rarely listen to what their users want...Im not saying anyone else is any better though...just that as a long time Sonos user/owner/sipporter...I think they could have done better this time around
Okay so you should know better than to just look at Arc in isolation.`
Both that and the general Sonos bashing haha.😜

My significantly more expensive dedicated system has probably enjoyed 10% of the bashing the Sonos has got over time. Whilst we may not agree with the moves they make (i bought my first playbar on a launch day as i will with Arc to find DTS a prob before any reviews came) I've learned to live with it, focused on the good and enjoyed ading numerous additional devices over time.

I think thats more the love of innovation and strategically planned evolvement of product line. It's like big boys lego! I really cant wait for all the pieces to fit together in July.
 
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dave77

Well-known Member
An interesting quote from a cached Engadget article:

Plenty of soundbars support Atmos at this point, but Sonos is doing something interesting with how the Arc responds to different audio formats. For example: if you’re watching a movie that doesn’t support Atmos, the Arc will adapt and use the upwards-firing speakers to improve bass performance. Similarly, if you’re running the Arc with the Sonos Sub, it’ll adjust accordingly and use its speakers to focus more on the mids and highs. If you’re using a pair of Sonos One speakers as your dedicated rear surround channels, the Arc’s surround drivers will be reassigned, as well.
Surely that would rely on your TV supporting all that, most won't pass more than 2.0
 

rck010

Member
So whats the deal with Sub (3rd Gen)?

Only electronics update? Cant find any details.
To go along with its brand-new Arc soundbar, Sonos is making a few internal updates to some existing products. Most relevant to anyone considering the Arc is probably the 3rd-generation Sonos Sub. Sonos has offered a wireless sub for years, and this update doesn’t change the equation much. In fact, the new Sub looks identical to its predecessor, but it got a major internal update. Sonos says that it has increased memory and processing power as well as a new wireless radio.

There you go :)
 

brankota

Standard Member
To go along with its brand-new Arc soundbar, Sonos is making a few internal updates to some existing products. Most relevant to anyone considering the Arc is probably the 3rd-generation Sonos Sub. Sonos has offered a wireless sub for years, and this update doesn’t change the equation much. In fact, the new Sub looks identical to its predecessor, but it got a major internal update. Sonos says that it has increased memory and processing power as well as a new wireless radio.

There you go :)
Lol, so a new cpu, some ram and an AC wifi module.....

No sonic improvement? just like Gen 1 -> Gen 2?
 

jouster

Moderator
I had a playbar a few years ago and the lack of dts was never an issue. Even now Sky Q, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Apple TV don’t use on it.

It wasn’t even an issue with discs as back then I had a Samsung Blu-ray player that let you force audio to Dolby 5.1. (Not sure if Samsung’s still do this)

If people need / want dts then Sonos isn’t for them, plenty of other products out there. Never understood why people can’t let it go
Just seen Sonos USA get 30% off for healthcare first responders etc hopefully the uk will get the same 🤞
would be a nice gesture for sure...but like most things...people will find a way to cheat the system
 

rck010

Member
Weren't we supposed to get an e-mail before the actual announcement also? I believe so if you signed up for it at their website. I haven't receive anything yet, have the feeling that this is going to be a long wait....
 

Mr X

Distinguished Member
Anyone hazard
Weren't we supposed to get an e-mail before the actual announcement also? I believe so if you signed up for it at their website. I haven't receive anything yet, have the feeling that this is going to be a long wait....
Yep signed up too but no email yet.
 

Fergal82

Distinguished Member
Weren't we supposed to get an e-mail before the actual announcement also? I believe so if you signed up for it at their website. I haven't receive anything yet, have the feeling that this is going to be a long wait....
Yeah I was thinking the same. I just assumed my email got lost
 

rck010

Member
I think i'm going to grab me a cup of coffee...

(And get back to see its announced and i missed it)
 

Cornwall1888

Standard Member
I wonder if the old sub will work with the new Soundbar.

Samsung make their subs only compatible with one generation, the subs with the newest flagship soundbars are inferior to the ones from 3 or 4 years ago

That would wind me up
 

dave77

Well-known Member
Just seen Sonos USA get 30% off for healthcare first responders etc hopefully the uk will get the same 🤞
I doubt it, I don't think Sonos have an office over here, only distribution from Holland. Good on them though, f#ck Trump!
 

HaRd2BeAr

Distinguished Member
I wonder if the old sub will work with the new Soundbar.

Samsung make their subs only compatible with one generation, the subs with the newest flagship soundbars are inferior to the ones from 3 or 4 years ago

That would wind me up
I think based on this it will be fine.

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