Some wooden flooring problems.. help?

EVH

Member
Hey all,

Currently have a Sony 46W2000 that's starting to get long in the tooth (no 24fps, 2x HDMI) and with my growing collection of Blu-Ray films I've decided to go all-out and buy a more recent screen.

I have pretty much decided on a Pioneer PDPLX5090 with an undermounted speaker + stand to compliment my existing Sony PS3 and Sky HD hardware, however I'm also in the market for a nice surround setup (5.1 ideally) and a dedicated receiver and speaker package which is where my question comes in..

I have solid hardwood flooring already laid down (skirting sat on top of the flooring) and I want to run the rear speaker cables to behind our sofa, however, as the skirting is on top of the flooring it's severly limiting my options (I'd have to remove half the skirting around the room to get to the flooring)

Does anyone have any advice for getting up / shifting a few "pieces" of hardwood flooring? (I don't mind chasing the floor once it's up, but I fear it could be a MASSIVE job for a 3inch trough)

Are there any viable alternatives to a 5.1 system? (I love my films so I'd hate to be forced in to a 2.1 setup but because of the layout of the room it's impossible to run cables around the perimeter as our back door is in the way)

My Hi-Fi speakers are sat either side of my current TV (Audiovector Mi3 Avantgarde) however they are not currently connected to the TV in any way. Would it be better to run a pair of RCA connectors from the TV to the Aux In on my amp? It's not ideal but it would save the flooring and at least it would be better than the standalone TV speakers.

Any help is appreciated.. I am ready to pull the trigger if the flooring doesn't pose too much of a problem (I'm thinking a decent carpenter could pull the flooring aside just enough to chase the runs without moving too many of the "pieces"???) although I was hoping to hear from the gurus on here.

Thanks for the help :thumbsup:
 

ash08

Novice Member
Whats your budget? £1100 will get you a 5.1 system (it looks drop dead gorgeous...)with wireless rears (1300 for 7.1)...Forget the name but I can probably get it for you, you can also check out HCC website and speaker reviews. its a great product, not gimmicky and the wireless rears actually work, it gets a fantastic review. Its pretty serious money though as you will also need a dedicated Amp.

There are no real alternatives with regard to 5.1 IMHO. A soundbar is an alternative and may do a job but it's not genuine surround sound and you will notice that, I don't know if you may have issues with the wooden floors also...

Sorry mate, no advice on the flooring.
 

EVH

Member
I will consider the wireless option, but I was thinking a wired solution would yield better results.

No particular budget as I'd be upgrading it on an Ad-hoc basis, would just like to do the ground work before the screen is ordered. That way I could literally pull some speaker cables down my underfloor trunking, buy the speakers and go.

My cousin is a carpenter, but there are so many good DIY'ers on here that I thought someone would have experience lifting some wooden flooring to lay cables?

If this fails I may have to tempt the missus in to moving so I can do a complete rewire, although that would put a halt to any screen upgrades.

Thanks for the advice though! Any chance of a link? Can't find it on the HCC site :(
 
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27neth

Distinguished Member
Cant you just remove the skirting and chase the wall behind that. To remove the flooring could easily damage it. Its more than likely you would split the tongue and grooves of the boards.

john.
 

ash08

Novice Member
Crystal Audio THX Speaker System - THX-T3 | Home Cinema Choice

Crystal Audio makes wireless cinema whoopee | News | TechRadar UK

Wireless packages are generally not well received but there one or two exceptions (literally 1 or 2...) where the quality is not compromised.

The above two links are for the Crystal Audio T3 speaker package and information on the wireless version of this package (just the rears). The speakers are THX certified which is pretty much the best rubber stamp in home cinema audio as I'm sure you are aware and the system received 4.5 stars out of 5. The wired system is a little old now and would have been available 3rd Quarter of 06 but the wireless package is about a year old (14 or so months)...Speaker technology ages very well compared to other parts of a home cinema. I paid 750 for my fronts a few years ago and they are still commanding decent money today used, in the region of 3-350.

I suppose it's subjective (and it's your cash) but providing you get a THX certified AMP the results should be, at the very least, on a par with a wired system of the same budget and better than a wired system costing less. A significantly cheaper 5* system will be reviewed with price being a factor.

Lifting the boards would allow you to hide the wires for all the speakers as a plus point and that sounds very tempting...A system with no visible wires is surely the Holy Grail and the results should be great! I'm sure you will get the advice you need regarding that.

Good luck mate.

Lastly, if you do plump for the wireless option there is another high end European brand that sells direct to the consumer but I can not remember the details (again!). If you want more info let me know and I'll try and find them?
 

EVH

Member
Cant you just remove the skirting and chase the wall behind that. To remove the flooring could easily damage it. Its more than likely you would split the tongue and grooves of the boards.

john.
That was my first thought, although as I said in the OP.. the back door is in the way and I can't see a way around that (unless I went under the edge of flooring by the door?)

Anyway, to get a better picture of our room I've attached a picture of our layout.. it's essentially an open plan living room that backs off the kitchen (that's why the room seems to have no rear wall). It's there.. but I haven't drawn it on.. the opening to the kitchen walkway is to the right of the couch pictured.
 

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EVH

Member
or go over the top..... and use inceiling rears, wont damage your floor at all....
Ceiling is a very weird configuration + I'm hoping to keep the mess down to a minimum.

2 days of "hell" is fine, anything that disrupts for longer would cause a fight :rotfl:
 

27neth

Distinguished Member
What trim is on the bottom of your back door? im sure there will be something covering a expansion gap of the flooring.

John.
 

stelangton

Standard Member
defo remove skirt board, many plastered walls dont reach the floor so just push cables int gap, i had to trim mine a little but looks really tidy. ps stanlyey knife the top of skirt so you dont rip half the paint of your wall if you do remove the skirts!!!!!
 

EVH

Member
Setup 1 (old pic)


Setup 2 (more recent)


You can't really see but the speaker cables are currently running along the top of the skirting. (I'm actually considering returning to setup 1), so it looks like I'll have a job to remove the skirting and tuck the wires behind (sealed to the plasterboard)

Just to the left of the left speaker is our back door. I've checked.. luckily the trim has come away (glued :rolleyes: ) and I've checked the gap.. there's about 3 or 4mm clearance. I could get away with a wider trim but it still means a big job removing all the skirting boards on the weekend.

Sorry about the poor quality on the second picture.. had to use the missus point and shoot
 
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