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but I now would like to think that I would offer some sort of help.
To people with Katana's? I doubt you would. Neither would I. Unless I was carrying a Katana, and was highly skilled.
Not necessarily jump in, but then again who knows what I'd do, maybe I might even turn a blind eye.
If it was family though I'd jump in, I'd rather get killed than them.
The fact is we live in a society that has the "Someone else will do it" or "It doesn't effect me" attitude.
And what do you mean highly skilled? I'm a second dan in judo and done some krav maga, even if you were highly skilled in another martial art etc it means nothing with a weapon.
The best thing to do is always avoid a confrontation regardless of skill, krav maga dealt with disarming and the attitude was pretty much focused on ending a situation as quickly as possibly using whatever force you could, although avoiding confrontation was always the preferred choice.
Even if you were skilled it's questionable whether you would jump in, quite often the fact that it doesn't effect you or you don't know the person is reason enough to keep walking.
Either way no matter how tough someone is, or how "skilled" they are, the element of surprise and a weapon can take down most people.
In any situation whether it be an attack, a car crash whatever you only have a split second to decide what to do, and most of the time we all have the same reflex/natural reaction.
It takes a lot of time and dedication to something to train ourselves to change and control our natural reactions.
Although I admire your attitude in wanting to help there were 20 people running at this lad with weapons including knives and swords, how would you be able to help? As advised with in the report the forosity of the attack was appalling and left the lad who was killed completely unprepaired.
If somebody did try and step in against 20 people with weapons I am sure that we would be talking about the lads death and that person who tried to help!
This part really sums up how society is though Rush-hour commuters looked on in horror, seriously if you're ever attacked or in trouble you can bet your life more people will look on, or even pretend not to have seen anything rather than offer help.
20 youths charging at him with weapons including a samurai sword.
I wouldnt expect many to get involved when something like that is happening, yeah its a horrible thing but do you really envisage yourself standing between one lad and 20 armed men?
I would like to think I would do something but I honestly think id be frozen by fear in such a situation.
That's shocking and I'm no stranger to London and certainly no stranger to violence having grown up in the worst part of the troubles.
As far as rival schools went, we had a lot of that but the njuries were all fat lips and black eyes, no one took it too far same with on the street, some even rougher fights but nothing more than a few stitches or a fracture. But this.. 20 against one and with all sorts of weapons and a sword! that's maddening and the way they hunted him down makes me ill, I know the feeling myself and I was lucky but it's without doubt one of the most terrifying situations to be in.
It's really hard to know what to do or what you would do. These kids are absolute animals these days, I'm sick of people saying we had less crime and the whole you could leave your door open during the day is nonsense and we're looking thru it via rose coloured glasses - that's just balls, because we did leave are door open when I was a kid and the only 'bad men' you had to be wary of was the local peado.
Of course then it got a bit more blowy upy shooty killy in the mid / late 80's and doors got shut then. I have one nephew going into secondary school this year and 2 to follow very closely, I can't help but feel worried. I've always felt that England was a more violent place for typical street crime like muggings and whatnot and I think the coppers over there are absolute balls of steel with no gun.
Very very sad business, really struck a nerve with me reading that and I usually just glance over that kinda thing.
Again I'm talking in general, even if it was one little boy with a water pistol most people would have just kept walking.
My point is that nowadays the majority turn a blind eye even if THEY CAN do something.
You base this assumption on... ?
There are plenty of people however who intervene
As a cyclist I know most people would not bother to stop if I was hit. More interested in chatting about Eastenders and other inane dribble.
Unfortunately a lot of people in the younger generation have no fear or respect for anything.
What benefit could these cowards possibly have to society after their release? They should be locked up for life.
What do you put it down to tho?
That's not true, apparently the majority would all stop and get out of their cars....
I think it all depends on where you are, I hear many stories like that from London and from friends in Edinburgh but I know that stuff like that wouldnt be likely in Glasgow.
Simple things like a friend was trying to take a pram up some stairs and was completely ignored in Edinburgh, doing the same in Glasgow and whoever was beside her as she approached the stairs would simply say "right misses" grab the front of the pram and make a move, not even stopping at the top to get a thankyou.
All just boils down to where you have been brought up and by who imo.
All these people who ask 'what would you do?' You don't have to tackle an armed group of 20. How about shouting something like 'Stop!' or 'I'm calling the Police'. I was in a park in Birmingham a few years ago and a gang of lads attacked two other lads and I shouted exactly that at them. A couple of other people chimed in as a result of what I said. The gang of lads didn't turn on us, although we were heavily out-numbered but ran off instead. It's just takes one person to encourage others to intervene.
The only time I wouldn't stop in a situation like that is if there were already people there