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So it appears the R2 version of Braveheart is better than the R1 version...

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by Stuart Wright, Feb 7, 2001.

  1. Stuart Wright

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    However the R2 version is definetly cut

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    Evening,

    Well, in my opinion, your choice of Region will be purely down to whether you want to bother paying more money, for a double-DVD that isn't really necessary, and giving money to Fox when the Extras could have been so much more...

    The print isn't as bad on R1, as the review makes out, unless you have a gigantic screen upon which you are viewing the movie! Obviously, the bigger the screen, the more noticeable any print defects become.

    Having had the R1 edition of Braveheart, for over three months now, I can't really see the point of getting the R2 version, just to have a slightly cut, minisculy-clearer print.

    Anyway, each to their own....

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    Pooch,
    I have both versions(one a present..)-but as yet have watched neither of them,what is supposed to be the difference-and what scenes are cut in the r2 version?
    I was thinking of swopping one of them ..
    p.s.do you know why 2 discs for the r2 version?
     
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    Rewind.com's comparison of the R1 v R2 calls it a draw but rather confusingly states that the R2 has not been cut for UK release but goes on to say the R1 & R2 are different versions (!) It doesnt take much to confuse me but lets just say IM CONFUSED (?) Can anyone clear this up ? Paul :confused

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    Isn't it the scene where Mel's 'wifey' has her throat cut?
     
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    BRAVEHEART was one of the first ever LDs that I purchased all those years back, I purchased the PAL version and was most impressed with it. Regardless of how good the DVD is it will not match the lovely gatefold sleeve that BRAVEHEART ( and most LDs ) had

    Anyway I remember at the time ( from HCC ) that the only difference between the PAL and the NTSC version was that the scene were the lady has her throat slit was re-framed for the PAL version and that this re-framing was authorised by MEL GIBSON. It would be interesting just to hear the commentary track at that point
     
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    Charles,

    Duncan's already answered one of your questions. I also believe that some single frames were removed just before major violence, e.g. you don't always see axes, spears, et al making their full impact into people's faces, etc.

    As for the 2nd DVD, on R2, it has a 27 minute documentary and a couple of trailers. The R1 version, has all of this, but all on one disc.

    Ultimately, if you go for R1, it will be uncut, and have all of the extras on one disc, and you'll be able to get it for about £15-£16. With R2, you're getting a censored version, with a second disc of stuff, that should've fitted onto one disc, and at about £17-£18. Also, bear in mind that by buying the R2 version, you are (to some degree) telling Fox that it's okay to release p*ss-poor double-disc DVD's with bugger-all extras on them! No, no, no!

    However, which you choose, is entirely up to you.

    Pooch
     
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    Regarding the R1 version, a friend of mine has it and I thought that the quality of the picture was terrible, much worse than my PAL LD.

    What is the pic qaulity like on the R2 version ?
     
  10. Stuart Wright

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    The R1 review above was done on an 8 foot screen - but we think that's the best way rather than 'burying your head in the sand' and ignoring any defects which may not be so immediately noticable on a smaller screen.
    IMO the R1 picture is awful.
    According to John, the R2 picture is excellent.
    And as I understand it, the only difference between R1 and R2 in terms of cuts etc is a reframing of the Meggan throat cutting.
    Having seen both, I wouldn't say it is worth bothering about.
    Hence R2 is better than R1.
     
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    I dont know,it seems that r2 discs have the better picture-but the r1 discs have more extras,more likely to be uncut-and more choice....laserdisc?...deja vu..?
     
  12. Stuart Wright

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    Charles - yes, in general you are right and my DVD collection is mostly R1.
    But in this case, I think R2 Braveheart has it.
     
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    I think that theres also another scene in which Mel kneels down and chops off a horses leg that has been cut from the R1 version.

    'Iddy, biddy titty'
     
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    I have the R2 release, and the first thing that stood out a MILE was that the battle seens had a lot less impact than the vhs release. i.e. hammer blow to head in fost battle (when blood should rush down mans head) etc. Very subtle changes have been made, but for me, the full impact and horror of the battles was lost. It's pretty much put me off buying R1 releases.
     
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    I too bought the R1 version of the film. (It's my bro-in-law's favourite favourite favourite favourite favourite film, he LOVES to see us English gettin' a good spankin'!!!)
    VERY disapointed in the picture quality on my 7 foot screen. Didn't think the 5.1 was anything to shout about either. All in all, a bit of a let down.

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    Have to agree.'The Alamo'/Great Escape' are far better on R2 than R1.I know as i have both regions,and one has bad grain,and the other has no grain.
     
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    I just bought the NTSC laserdisc
    anyone know how this rates against others in the discussion in terms of picture quality and cutting?

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