Snug Room renovation Inc. Recessed LG OLED55B6...

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    Hi this is this is my first post please be gentle...

    I have spent years looking through other members posts with great admiration...

    Here are my efforts at creating a snug room in our first home, it is almost finished bar a bit of skirting, architrave and some double doors. I am also hoping to get my hands on a HDANYWHERE HDMI matrix and relocate my sources under the stairs in a comms cab.

    The snug includes a LG OLED 55B6 recessed but also overlapping the chimney breast by 10 mm all around bar the bottom (left for ventilation) this means that side on only 5mm (the thickness of the screen) is visible when the cantilever bracket is pushed back into place. In hindsight I definitely should have made my life a whole lot easier by using batten and plaster board to create my recess for the panel but I was trying to save as much floor space as possible and had a lot of spare insulated plasterboard (which is what I used) hanging around.

    I am running a Denon AVR 2313 With some Gale Aria10 fronts and some Cambridge Audio Minx10 for rear with a Eltax audio sub which I'm looking to upgrade, I also hope to turn my set up in to 7.1 by adding some Cambridge audio Minx ceiling speakers.

    I will add more pics - only seems to let me add this many so far...

    Anyway thanks for looking,

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    Lovely work, fair play!!
     
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    Great work, looks fantastic.
     
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    Great work, did you sand the floorboards? They came up really nice.
     
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    Great job. Looks like it was worth all that work. Love the fact you took a structural wall down only to put a new stud wall up a few feet further back! It's a lot of work but you have to make the space work for you and it looks like you haven't compromised. Enjoy.
     
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    Brilliant looking job, well done. :thumbsup:

    Now, ENJOY!!

    Martin.
     
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    Great project Jamie, looks awesome! :thumbsup: Agree with Paul, really like how you've maximised the space moving the wall. Where in relation to you MVP are your stairs?

    Have you considered an Atmos speaker setup (5.1.2 / 5.1.4) rather than 7.1?
     
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    That's a stunning effect. Love it.

    Also love the lasers. . It sort of looks like Kylo Ren cut the recess out.
     
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    Good work. It is always worth it in the end. Even the messy bits. It looks stunning.
     
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    I assume the ceiling speakers are for atmos since I can not see them working well in a traditional 7.1 system. An amazing job so far. Considered a wall mounted centre under TV?
     
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    Looks superb
     
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    Hi - Yes I sanded them back - the sanding in this case was easy in comparison to the 1st floor as I took all the floor boards up to rearrange them in order to cover up the adjacent board which had been laid down to cover the space left from where the wall sat before the 2 reception rooms were originally knocked through. I wanted the boards cut and laid in a sequence all along which was basically 1 long board (around 4m) with 1 short board (around 1m) and then the opposite - if you know what I mean. I needed to buy a few long boards from a reclamation yard (not cheap btw) to achieve this. So as I was taking all of the boards up I also flipped them over because they had been painted with a black tar type paint which took ages to get rid of on the 1st floor. They came up very well and I would highly recommend OSMO oil/wax as a sealant.
     
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    Hi - Thank you! Yes, well the original idea was to close up the existing opening and fit double doors but I felt the space was too small - also we are also building a ground floor extension - 5 metres out and 1m extra to the side, so around 35sq metres which will be all open and so hopefully a nice big space - I felt the snug/living room would be out of proportion. here is the plan... with in the red lines is existing and the rest will be the extension...
     

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    Ha ha - I love my laser level! worth its weight in gold...
     
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    Thanks Simon - Yes as I was saying to paul - the space felt too small and as well to keep it in proportion to the extension we hope to start soon...

    Dolby Atmos - I hadn't until you mentioned it and now I'm thinking it would probably be the only choice... The reason I was thinking 7.1 was because I had it running in my last place but I had a very wide lounge so ran some wide fronts - which worked well. the speakers Ive fitted are almost as wide as I can go so wide fronts or wide rear aren't actually an option even ceiling mounted. Atmos might be my only option if I decide to add.

    Question - Is there much content that supports Atmos? I read that BT Sports are starting to offer it for their UHD televised events but is it also used often on blu ray etc?

    MVP is that main viewing position? if so the stairs would be behind the mvp with the lobby area in between - heres a plan which includes the proposed extension
     

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    Thanks! :)
     
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    Thanks - and yes that's what I tell myself during the 'dark days' - "keep going, it will all be worth it"
     
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    Hi - Wasn't originally thinking atmos but you and Simon have got me realising its the only option if I want to add - So yes I'm going to look into that... Is there much content which puts out in atmos?


    I have wired for a centre speaker in case I did decide to add one - Id be after something very slender if possible tho also I'm probably going to add a floating shelf so may place it on there...
     
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    Speakers do not sound their best on a shelf so I would wall mount with a bracket if possible.
    Atmos is getting more popular I believe but an Atmos AVR will give pseudo Atmos for non Atmos material as well.
     
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    An Atmos set up could work nicely for you from how I understand the room layout is. If you don't have the amount of room you'd like for rear surrounds you might not have enough room for a 5.1.4 set up because it's usually preferred to have two ceiling (or upfiring) speakers in front of the MLP (main listening point) and two behind (as with rear surrounds). That's not to say a 5.1.2 set up can't sound awesome, it really can! I feel it gives a great balanced soundfield compared to traditional 5.1 and maximises space well. You position the .2 slide hotly in front of the MLP.

    There is a lot of Atmos content out there as well as DTS X - Dolby Atmos Blu-ray Discs

    This list is not exhaustive but will give you a flavour. There are plenty of threads on here about films with Atmos too. Nearly all 4K UHD releases now have Atmos or DTS X and a lot of BD do.

    You're correct BT Sport have started showing games with Atmos although it is only when streaming their 4K service. I'm sure I've read Sky are due to follow too but actually broadcast via dishes. When this happens it is likely it will also include Sky Cinema.

    I noticed your PS4 Pro, games will have Atmos soon enough also. I don't think you'll struggle for content. But it's worth knowing you can upmix any film to utilise your ceiling speakers and it can sound great! There is a thread on here about good sounding films upmixed too.

    Are you considering housing all your consoles, AVR and disc players in the comms cupboard? If so it might be worth researching the type of HDMI cables you'll need if the distance is say over 5M.
     
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    Ah ok noted...
    Yeh I'm going to look into Atmos...
     
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    Thank you for all this info - I wish I had dabbled on here sooner....

    I see what your saying with the 5.1.4 - ideally I would have my MLP further forward (by say 2 metres or so) for best results - but would I still get a decent result if I placed some 'rear' ceiling speakers as far back as possible (almost touching the wall behind me) or would it have to be a slight sofa shuffle for film nights? haha...
    Would the position of the ceiling speakers for a 5.1.2 be in the same position as they would be if in a 5.1.4 set up? or would they be placed further forward in a 5.1.4? ...what I'm getting at is could I try out a 5.1.2 and then add 'rears' for a 'not ideal 5.1.4 later on...

    I'm going to check out that list - Thanks!

    Good to know about sky... I'm currently battling with LG on their promotion for free SKYQ for 12 months with any OLED purchased - I didn't realise there was a 60 day claim term. So hopefully they give in and Ill get it so I'm ready for some 4k broadcasting...

    I am definitely looking to house all my consoles under the stairs in a comms cab when I have some spare dough - Ive been looking at HDANYWHEREs 4x4 matrix. So just the 1x cat5e or cat6 (which I have already wired) to each t.v into a module and then a short hdmi out from that - Ive actually taken 2x cat6 over to the t.v and both are waiting under the stairs...

    Not sure how I would arrange the audio once I start to use a matrix... whether I move the avr too or leave that in place... id like to have multi room set up - living room, extension (possibly some form of surround sound), bathroom and bedroom...
     
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    Take a look at what Dolby recommend when you get some time. It's useful albeit a little confusing - Dolby Atmos 5.1.2 Speaker Setup

    https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technol...tmos-home-theater-installation-guidelines.pdf

    Dolby Atmos 5.1.4 Speaker Setup

    I personally think if you try to fit the rear ceiling speakers into the setup and they are too close to the rear wall then the sound may not be correctly distributed. Dolby recommend ceiling speakers which have wide dispersion capabilities. If the sound is almost immediately hitting the rear wall then it's wasted. Lost, bounces off and might not sound balanced. So even if you can move your sofa forward you might still have some sound imbalance. Compare that to two (.2) well positioned good wide dispersion ceiling speakers and not only is your bank balance healthier you'll get great even sounds distribution. If by moving your sofa forward 2M and this gives you plenty of ceiling space behind it can work.

    It is possible to start with .2 and add to get .4 but for the above reason it might not work for your layout. Also I think in a .4 set up the front ceiling speakers might be positioned slightly more forward than in a .2 set up.

    Feel free to provide some measurements on your room, distance of your sofa/MLP to the TV and budget I can give you some pointers on which speakers might work well. Are you thinking ceiling or upfiring?

    Can all your pass through equipment for your comms room carry enough bandwidth to display UHD/4K (3840x2160)?

    Might be worth checking out some AVRs with multi zone and 9.2 channels plus if you'd like Atmos and some sound in other rooms. And or additional preamp

    Edit - If you are able to move you sofa forward, another benefit you will get from this is a reduced viewing distance to your TV for 4K viewing - TV Size to Distance Calculator and Science
     
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    Nice work. I had exactly that tar black paint round a rug in our bedroom (and have just covered it up in other rooms). I spent ****ing ages sanding to get it off too. I didn't consider turning the floorboards over... Doh. Am happy enough with how it turned out though!
     

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