I think I'm trying to find the impossible. I want to build a PC into a small tower case (< 24W x 33D x 35H cm), important bit is depth as it's to fit in a unit. No problem, I thought, use a mATX board and get a suitable case. I can't find one that is shallow enough, with 2 5.25" and 1 3.5" external bays. The miniATX cases only have 1 of each ext. bays, and the shuttles either the same, or in the case (sorry ) of the Soltek Qbic too wide. Best compromise I can come up with is this barebones from Asus here , which is a bit short on PCI expansion. Can anyone come up with any other suggestions, or what's your views on the Asus? Sorry if it's a bit off topic, as the PC is more of a general purpose workhorse than a true HTPC.