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Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by michaelab, Mar 28, 2003.

  1. michaelab

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    OK, this is going to sound like a bit of an odd request but is there an AV receiver that anyone knows of which is less than 130mm tall (including feet)?

    It would have to have DD5.1, DTS, DPLII and 5.1 pre-outs and at least 3 channels (2 rear + centre) of amplification. I don't want a Yammy E800 because it doesn't have DPLII (and I'm not even sure if it meets the height restriction).

    My issue is that my hifi racking only has 130mm gaps. Currently that's not a problem with my Marantz SR4200 because it sits on top:

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    ...but I may be about to get a CD transport that needs to go on top because it is also 'too big' so for the time being the SR4200 will just have to sit on top of the CD transport (Teac VRDS-10 btw).

    In AV terms I was thinking of upgrading to an Arcam P85.3 3 channel power amp for the rears & centre and probably a Cyrus AV8 (they would both fit in the racking I have as I have 3 or 4 extra shelves of it). However, that's a nearly £2K upgrade :eek: so if there's a cheaper one box alternative that meets my height restriction then I'd like to investigate it :)

    Michael.
     
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    Can I ask Where you got the table (s) from? What make are they??


    Ossie:hiya:
     
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    These are one of the best sounding tables that you can get by all accounts. The only place I have seen and listened to them is at Phonography.

    Can't remmember the name though.
     
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    Pioneer and panasonic make some skinny amps but probably a backward step from the sr4200!
    Rotel seem thinish and have the spec.
    I'll see what i can dig up if i can have first refusal if you sell the marrantz.
     
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  6. michaelab

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    The racking is, ahem, a copy of the IsoBlue racking. Their website (www.isoblue.com - it's currently down) had pictures and dimensions, so when I found the price of the 'originals' a little steep, I got a local carpenter to make them up for me out of beech wood (the originals are cherry) to the same spec for significantly less money :devil:

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    Thanks hornydragon, but at £1600 for Rotel combo I might aswell get the Cyrus AV8 + Arcam P85.3 solution which would also fit on two shelves and are both less than 130mm tall. OK, it's a bit cheaper but not much. I was really wondering if there was a one box receiver less than 130mm tall.

    I've looked at the specs for the Yammy DSP E800, it is just less than 130mm (126mm!) and it is very cheap...maybe I can live without DPLII :confused: well, first lets see if I even get that new CD transport :)

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    Not tempted by Rotel pre power combo???
    PS Stupid question, you had the shelves made right, why not have a taller one made for the marrantz or better yet. Put a plinth on the floor and some longer legs on the base unit!
     
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    If you want to go cheap!
    http://www.richersounds.com/index.php?f=itemdetl.php&p=300401
    But thats a bit too cheap for you i suspect.
    I would love that Rotel combo and may just maybe i will be able to buy one. You could always post a wanted add for one or the Cyrus/arcam combo someone might be moving up to a TAG.
     
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    Well, that is of course the other option, to get a taller shelf made especially. Probably the cheapest option aswell :rolleyes:

    The Rotel pre/power combo does look good, and, to be honest the Rotel RSP1066 is an alternative to the Cyrus AV8 I've been considering, but since I already have the Arcam for the fronts I'd like to stick with Arcam amplification so probably will go for the P85.3 (unless I can find an ex-dem P25.3 for a decent price).

    That big upgrade is still some way off though.... :(

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    Panasonic SA-XR45 (about £350) - Sounds very good on paper - DD EX, DPLII, DTS-ES, DTS NEO, DTS 96/24, 6 x 100watts AND ONLY 74mm High!

    Rear inputs/outputs
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    How about the Rotel 1066 and a Arcam Alpha 10 3ch second hand?

    The Arcams pop up quite often on ebay and similar for reasonable money. Not sure but you may find that Arcam will till fit a 3ch channel if you can only get a 2ch one.
     
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    Those Panny 'slimline' receivers look pretty cool. Unfortunately it doesn't look like they have 5.1 pre-outs allthough that "second audio out" might be sufficient because all I really need is front pre-outs.

    Still - the purchase of the new Teac CD transport is not happening for a while so I can think of other options. I must say the Rotel RSP1066 looks like a bargain processor and it's been getting some excellent reviews. If I can get hold of a s/h or ex-dem 3 channel Arcam FMJ P25, or possibly a 3 chan. Diva P85 that would be the better upgrade, rather than going for just another receiver. Alpha 10 would probably be just as good as a FMJ P25 (and cheaper) but unfortuately it won't match my A22 integrated ;)

    Thanks for all the suggestions guys.

    Michael.
     
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    Have you considered adding a DAVE module to your A22? Although I am not sure if it does DPL2.

    Yan
     
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    I have considered the DAVE module but it doesn't do DPLII and I'd prefer to have an external processor.

    Michael.
     
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    Michael ... not sure if cost is an issue for you ... but how about getting a 3channel P25 / P85 / P35 depending on what you want ... and buying a cheep second hand Rotel or similar processor to give you 5.1 and PL for now, then later replacing the processor with one of your choice and you shouldn't have to loose too much on the original processor you buy.

    Alternatively have you considered getting a s/h Cyrus AV5 and then getting it upgraded first for PLII and then later upgrading it to full AV8 spec? (I've seen AV5s go for less than £500 on ebay and the upgrade is listeed at £240 GBP).

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    Thanks Vikki - next stage is definitely a 3 channel amp (I've seen a few P25/3 going for £600 ex.dem). I didn't realise the AV5 was upgradable to PLII, so that's something worth considering. In the end though I'll probably go for a Rotel 1066 or Cyrus AV8 or, if the money can stretch a Tag AV30R.

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    I'm going on the UK price list on Cyrus' website which lists AV5 upgraded to PLII at £180 and AV5 upgraded to AV8 at £240.

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    Yep Vikki's right...was thinking of getting my AV5 zapped to 8 spec...but decided to hang around until/if Cyrus adopt extended surround.
     
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    Maybe they'll do 6.1 formats and multi-channel input as standard when they bring out the AVX ... well they've done a CDX and Amp X so probably due an AVx too.
     
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    Yes the X series is my main reason for delaying...though it's not clear to me if Cyrus will support 5->8->X upgrades. Next processor must have EX though, but i'd like to keep my old "shoe boxes" if possible.
     

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