Slimline Sub Cable or Wireless Adaptor

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Finally getting round to getting a system set up in our new house.

The sub is having to move from its current location and is going in the opposite corner to the TV. I see it as having 2 options, I either run a slim cable all the way around the room, or go with a wireless adaptor such as the SVS Soundpath.

Room size is 5.4m x 4.1m

Given where it is and the fact I own an Anti Mode I would be interested in using that too (I appreciate I need to try everything first)... but fear that the delays from a Wireless Adaptor AND an Anti Mode may freak Audyssey out. However, I am also concerned that slimline sub cables might be shit, I don't know this, but they tend to be a bit chunky usually... I've been looking at 'good' ones such as Chord, QED etc but also one from @AV Online - Fisual / QED Ultra Compact White Custom Subwoofer Cable - Subwoofer Cables - AV Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

I've got to run speaker cable to the rear of the room anyway but due to the number of corners (the double doors are slightly recessed) I don't think I can use too thick a cable if i go that route. If there are suggestions for a decent, flexible sub cable, that may be the perfect solution.

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If that room is carpeted you shouldn't have any major problems running the cables round. Amazon Basics Sub Cables are very flexible.
 
+1 for the amazon basics sub cables. I'm using it to all my subs. I've compared it with solid silver XLR and phono leads and not noticed any difference. I'm going to try the BlueJeans Cable from the US when I go in November, but I'm not expecting much of a difference.

I'm also using their mono to stereo RCA (which is the same cable as the pure mono sub cable) and that works just as well.
 
It is carpeted, i'm just not mad on the idea of lifting the carpet... i think you've suggested before that it's viable to lift it and place carpet between grip board and underlay? If it's flexible then i'm happy to go with it, the micro stuff is just even easier (and i'm lazy!)
 
It's a doddle lifting the carpet, and creating shallow angles on internal corners.
 
Given where it is and the fact I own an Anti Mode I would be interested in using that too (I appreciate I need to try everything first)... but fear that the delays from a Wireless Adaptor AND an Anti Mode may freak Audyssey out. However, I am also concerned that slimline sub cables might be sh*t, I don't know this, but they tend to be a bit chunky usually... I've been looking at 'good' ones such as Chord, QED etc but also one from @AV Online - Fisual / QED Ultra Compact White Custom Subwoofer Cable - Subwoofer Cables - AV Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

I've got to run speaker cable to the rear of the room anyway but due to the number of corners (the double doors are slightly recessed) I don't think I can use too thick a cable if i go that route. If there are suggestions for a decent, flexible sub cable, that may be the perfect solution.

I bought that cable six years ago because the trunking was getting a bit full. It has worked fine. A point of interest the £13 price in the link is for 1 metre. The length I bought to run to the back of the room cost about £40.
 
I bought that cable six years ago because the trunking was getting a bit full. It has worked fine. A point of interest the £13 price in the link is for 1 metre. The length I bought to run to the back of the room cost about £40.
Yup, I'm aware it's a bit more... but as you say it's about £40
 
I use this for my sub


Has worked well so far.
Had also looked at that, but the SVS one gets better reviews.... my main concern with a Wireless transmitter is the latency introduced, especially if I add an Anti Mode.
 
I cant say I have noticed latency issues, although its not used over a long distance. It is however on the other side of a door.
 
I cant say I have noticed latency issues, although its not used over a long distance. It is however on the other side of a door.

I think it's more of an issue with Audyssey - especially if you're a 'reasonable' distance away as it can hit the max delay limit. The Anti Mode adds even more in!
 
Cabling would take about 45-60mins and it would be done. Extremely easy to do, agree with all the above comments to diy it. Done it myself many a time.
 
Cabling would take about 45-60mins and it would be done. Extremely easy to do, agree with all the above comments to diy it. Done it myself many a time.
Are you free this weekend? :rotfl: :D

It is looking as though cabling is going to make sense. There is a carpet fitter locally, I may pop over at the weekend and employ their services... probably still cheaper than the Wireless adaptor plus i'll have peace of mind!
 
Agree that the latency from the mini-DSP and the SoundPath Wireless Audio Adapter could very well exceed the distance limitation in the AVR.

It's not Audyssey which will 'freak out' - Audyssey will accurately identify the correct subwoofer distance. That distance may simply exceed the data buffer limitations in the AVR and you'll typically get a warning when that occurs.

The way distance settings work in the AVR is that it must delay all other channels by varying amounts such that they all arrive at the same time as the subwoofer channel (which has a total latency defined by mini-DSP + SoundPath Wireless unit + subwoofer amp DSP latency + acoustic distance). If the AVR processor doesn't have enough buffering capacity for this - you'll get the warning message.

Ed M - SVS
 
Agree that the latency from the mini-DSP and the SoundPath Wireless Audio Adapter could very well exceed the distance limitation in the AVR.

It's not Audyssey which will 'freak out' - Audyssey will accurately identify the correct subwoofer distance. That distance may simply exceed the data buffer limitations in the AVR and you'll typically get a warning when that occurs.

The way distance settings work in the AVR is that it must delay all other channels by varying amounts such that they all arrive at the same time as the subwoofer channel (which has a total latency defined by mini-DSP + SoundPath Wireless unit + subwoofer amp DSP latency + acoustic distance). If the AVR processor doesn't have enough buffering capacity for this - you'll get the warning message.

Ed M - SVS

Thanks Ed, I appreciate my description of what will happen with Audyssey wasn't maybe the most technical or accurate!

I'm testing with a long cable first - when the LCR channels arrive and will review the carpet options. If the sub sounds ok without the additional Anti Mode then I may well just avoid the hassle and go Wireless - tricky to consider too many variables at once though!

Appreciate the guidance.
 

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