Sky subscription channels with Nova-HD-S2

Training4all

Active Member
I've have a Nova-HD-S2 card now can I use this card to record my subscribed S*Y channels on my computer e.g. Nat Geo HD, Discovery HD & Eden HD as well as FTA channnels?

If yes, what other equipment would I need to get in order to make this work?


Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Tia
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
Regardless of which front end you go for, i've heard of driver instability for some card readers. Be carefull which one you buy or, go the safe option and get a dreambox.

The solution I linked to can be used with MP should you wish to go that way.
 

Training4all

Active Member
I would prefer a straight PC route without any extra boxes but if stability is an issue with external readers, then maybe the Dreambox would be the better option...I will have to look at both in a bit more detail then decide which would be the best way forward for my set up. Thanks again for pointing me in right direction & the links to both guides.

You guys rock!!
 

wolvers

Novice Member
robbo, would you mind giving us a quick run through of your set up?

Also, do you still have to put the card back into your sky box every now and then?

Edit; sorry I just saw your link!
 

robbo100

Well-known Member
Wolvers - Hopefully the link has all you need, but if you want more detail please PM me with some questions.

I have always had to put the card back in the sky box, but recently I have amended the settings and I am reliably informed that this change will mean that I don't have to anymore (see my recent edit to the linked post with the changes in red). My entitlements are about 3 weeks away from expiring, so I am on the cusp of expecting an update - so time will tell.

Robbo100
 

jameson_uk

Novice Member
robbo100 said:
Wolvers - Hopefully the link has all you need, but if you want more detail please PM me with some questions.

I have always had to put the card back in the sky box, but recently I have amended the settings and I am reliably informed that this change will mean that I don't have to anymore (see my recent edit to the linked post with the changes in red). My entitlements are about 3 weeks away from expiring, so I am on the cusp of expecting an update - so time will tell.

Robbo100

Only got Freesat from sky now but using OSCAM and my omnikey 3121 under XP all works great. standby is fine and entitlements update (as long as the misses watches enough FIVE HD/5 USA...)
Old sky box is a distant memory now :)
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
... standby is fine and entitlements update (as long as the misses watches enough FIVE HD/5 USA...)
...

Just out of curiosity, whats FIVE HD/5 USA got to do with it?


I have always had to put the card back in the sky box, but recently I have amended the settings and I am reliably informed that this change will mean that I don't have to anymore (see my recent edit to the linked post with the changes in red).

Also, any chance you can share your settings? If this is now stable, I would be happy to do the USB reader method and free up a power socket :smashin: Has to be 100% though as the Dreambox "just works".
 

robbo100

Well-known Member
Is there a particular DVB-S card that works best with the omnikey? A dual tuner one I would assume?

Using MediaPortal it shouldn't make any difference, as long as it works with MediaPortal (i.e. is has BDA drivers), it will work using the guide linked above.

Just out of curiosity, whats FIVE HD/5 USA got to do with it?

Sky transmit a number of channels which require a white sky card to be plugged into the sky box to view, namely 5 USA, 5 USA+1, 5*, 5*+1 and 5HD. These are not available from normal freesat and are encrypted. You don't actually need to have a subscription from sky to watch these channels, but the viewing card must be valid, and it does need to refresh it's entitlements every 50 days or so. Jameson and I both have this setup - i.e. we don't actually have a sky subscription, but use this technique to get 5HD (they do have some good films in full HD with DTS sound - I am not addicted to Neighbours like Jameson's wife :laugh:).

Don't worry though, this will work for full sky subscription too as the principle is identical.

Also, any chance you can share your settings? If this is now stable, I would be happy to do the USB reader method and free up a power socket Has to be 100% though as the Dreambox "just works".

I have already shared it - see post 3 of this thread for the link. I am using the Omnikey USB card reader (which you can get off Ebay for about £8, so even if it doesn't work it won't cost you much to try).

OSCAM will transmit on newcamd to multiple users on the network, so if you have a PC with 10 tuner card in it, each will be able to use the entitlements simultaneously. Equally, if you have 10 PCs each with one tuner, it will work.
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
Thank you very much for the detailed post!

£8, not too expensive even if it goes in the bin :smashin:

Sorry, i thought you had done some additional tweaking and thats why I thought there was more to it than your post linked in post 3. :)

I'll order an Omni Key now then :D
 

jameson_uk

Novice Member
Monty Burns said:
Also, any chance you can share your settings? If this is now stable, I would be happy to do the USB reader method and free up a power socket :smashin: Has to be 100% though as the Dreambox "just works".

This is 100% stable for me but I know others have had issues. I am using XP which I think plays a part (it is the card reader drivers which seem to be problematic for some)

I got this setup as an experiment but has been surprisingly rock solid
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
Thanks guys, omni key ordered. Cost a tenner so even if it goes straight into the bin, its no great loss :thumbsup:
 

djcla

Distinguished Member
wish i had not read this thread do i really want to start this :lesson: and break something else hmmm
 

robbo100

Well-known Member
wish i had not read this thread do i really want to start this and break something else hmmm

You love it! :)

This is 100% stable for me but I know others have had issues. I am using XP which I think plays a part (it is the card reader drivers which seem to be problematic for some)

I have got this working on XP SP3 and on another PC for someone else with Windows 7. Both are rock solid, although I have to do quite a lot of testing with different version of OSCAM with the Windows 7 setup to get it to work. I will try to find out the working version for Windows 7 if people are interested.

Robbo100
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
...I will try to find out the working version for Windows 7 if people are interested.

Robbo100

Yes please, its the O/S i'm using.
 

tony_park

Active Member
OSCAM does work under win 7 - my problem that I had with the omnikey, was related to usb drivers, not just after resume from sleep, but also when starting from cold...

I tried an Infinity USB SMART, and once I got it off the ground it was working great... my new problem was that having 6 tuners, all the OSCAM executables were killing the pc. Even though my dvb-t tuners shouldn't have used oscam.... for some reason there were 6 instances running.

I keep falling back to the dreambox/technomate approach, as it just works now....

HTH
Tony
 

tony_park

Active Member
OSCAM does work under win 7 - my problem that I had with the omnikey, was related to usb drivers, not just after resume from sleep, but also when starting from cold...

I tried an Infinity USB SMART, and once I got it off the ground it was working great... my new problem was that having 6 tuners, all the OSCAM executables were killing the pc. Even though my dvb-t tuners shouldn't have used oscam.... for some reason there were 6 instances running.

I keep falling back to the dreambox/technomate approach, as it just works now....

HTH
Tony
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
Thanks Tony, i thought yours were more than just sleep issues but wasn't sure. I've ordered an OSCAM and if it goes in the bin, its no great deal... at a tenner I call it disposable.

You say the after Infinity, OSCAM killed your system, in which way? Was it a memory leak where it just ate more and more ram or cpu hungry? I run an 8gb I3 so I hope I should have MORE than enough power if its a CPU issue, memory leak though, thats obviously a diferent story.

edit: You also mention that it affected your T tuners, did it not affect the S2's? I don't run T's so if thats all it is, that would be a winner for me! (Could you link please?)
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
Does it work in 7MC?

It should work fine as long as you use DVBLogic TVSource. I'm waiting for mine to be delivered and can tell you in a day or two. Caveat though - read Tony Parks post just above.
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
Those instructions are far from easy to follow and I've realised its missed steps so, anyway, i've had a go but get encrypted message.

Here are my details:

oscam.server renamed from_omnikey


# Read OScam wiki for further details on values below or additional one you could use - http://streamboard.gmc.to:8001/

[reader]
Label = MEDIAPC
Protocol = pcsc
Device = 0
Group = 1
mhz = 357
Cardmhz = 368
EMMCache = 1,3,2
detect = CD
CAID = 0963
# Enter 8 digital Boxid below, the same as you would use in CCCam or NewCS
BoxID = NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
blockemm-u = 0
blockemm-s = 0
blockemm-g = 1
blockemm-unknown = 0



oscam.user


# Read OScam wiki for further details on values below or additional one you could use - http://streamboard.gmc.to:8001/

[account]
user = user1
pwd = pass1
disabled = 0
group = 1
uniq = 1
sleep = 0
monlevel = 1
# The au section below should be the same a the Label section of the oscam.server file
au = MEDIAPC
caid = 0963
keepalive = 1

[account]
user = user2
pwd = pass2
disabled = 0
group = 1
uniq = 1
sleep = 0
monlevel = 1
# The au section below should be the same a the Label section of the oscam.server file
au = MEDIAPC
caid = 0963
keepalive = 1





ACamd - cardclient.conf

newcamd:127.0.0.1:34000:0/0000/0000:user2:pass2:0102030405060708091011121314



and finally OSCAM.EXE ---



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> OSCam << cardserver started at Tue Dec 6 17:53:53 2011
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s version=0.99.4svn, build #2859, system=i386-pc-cy
gwin, nice=-1
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s max. clients=509, client max. idle=120 sec
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s max. logsize=2048 Kb
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s client timeout=5000 ms, fallback timeout=2500 ms,
cache delay=0 ms
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s shared memory initialized (size=4327794, fd=3)
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s auth size=4764
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s services reloaded: 0 services freed, 1 services l
oaded
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s userdb reloaded: 0 accounts freed, 2 accounts loa
ded, 0 expired, 0 disabled
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s signal handling initialized (type=sysv)
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s can't open file "./oscam.srvid" (err=2), no servi
ce-id's loaded
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s can't open file "./oscam.provid" (err=2), no prov
ids's loaded
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s monitor: disabled
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s camd 3.3x: disabled
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s camd 3.5x: disabled
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s cs378x: disabled
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s newcamd: initialized (fd=7, port=15008, crypted)
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s CAID: 0963
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s provid #0: 000000
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s cccam: initialized (fd=8, port=15005, crypted)
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s radegast: disabled
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s logger started (pid=2588)
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s http started (pid=640)
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s reader started (pid=5604, device=0)
2011/12/06 17:53:53 4464 s waiting for local card init
2011/12/06 17:53:53 640 h HTTP Server listening on port 8080
2011/12/06 17:53:53 5604 r02 card detected
2011/12/06 17:53:53 5604 r02 [videoguard2-reader] type: VideoGuard BSkyB - New

2011/12/06 17:53:54 5604 r02 card system not supported
2011/12/06 17:53:54 5604 r02 Normal mode failed, reverting to Deprecated Mode
2011/12/06 17:53:54 5604 r02 [videoguard2-reader] type: VideoGuard BSkyB - New

2011/12/06 17:53:54 5604 r02 card system not supported
2011/12/06 17:53:54 5604 r02 card initializing error
2011/12/06 17:53:56 4464 s init for all local cards done
2011/12/06 17:53:56 4464 s anti cascading disabled
 
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