Sky or a motorized dish

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  1. waveuk

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    Hi forum,

    new here and not very into the sat world.

    I have moved house where it has and old sky dish with a single cable. I would like to be able to watch and record at the same time so whatever I decide to do, I would need a new installation.

    I have a small kid so channels like Disney are of my interest apart of documentaries like National geographic. I am not very into sports but I would like to see for example the big events like 2014 World cup. Also would like to get some channels in Spanish.

    My options are:
    - Sky entertainment extra+. I will get the documentaries, kids channels, the box and installation for 32/month. First year 335 with discount coupons.
    - Get a motorized dish. I would get more channels including Spanish ones but I am not sure about the documentaries and kids channels. I would have to invest about 450 (including HDD) one off and the dish would be bigger.

    Do you think and automatic dish would give me what I need and would be cheaper in the long run?

    Also the equipment has to be user friendly, e.g. I do not want to have to upload the EPG manually or things like that.

    Many thanks
     
  2. logiciel

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    Hi and welcome to the forum.
    It sounds as if all that you need is a Sky installation which is totally free of charge.
    If you really need the Spanish channels then it's much more complex.
    Logiciel.
     
  3. davemurgatroyd2

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    The major problem with a motorised dish is that you can only watch one channel and record another if they are on the same satellite. If you decide what other satellites you wish to view then a multi-lnb on one dish system would allow two channels at the same time from different satellites.

    A motorised dish allows the most flexibility in terms of channel availability but a multi lnb allows the most flexibility in terms of recording and viewing at the same time from different channels.

    Also note that very few other satellites have an EPG in any way like the Sky and freesat EPGs - a limited number have 7 day EPGs but most have merely a now and next EPG if anything so recording is mainly setting manual timers in the old VCR manner (channel, start and end time etc)
     
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    A Freesat setup (Sky if you must...) running from a minidish and a second motorised dish is the ultimate setup IMO.

    Freesat for convenience with full EPG, series linking, red button etc and recording whilst the motorised is pointing elsewhere.

    The motorised setup gives access to lots more sats. It doesn't have to be a big dish but better if it is (location depending...) If you can get 7w and 26e there's plenty of FTA English movies with some documentaries and children's stuff too, but Nat Geo and Disney Channel it isn't. Well there is Nat Geo Farsi (I think) on 7w but I've never seen any English on it. If you look at subscription channels there's lots of options all over the place. You also have access to broadcast feeds, mainly sports and current events but also live music/opera/theatre that may be of interest.

    Search the forum and take a look around the Satellite TV section rather than the Sky section. Also see here for some inspiration:
    purplesat.com - Satellite & Aerial TV Installations & products.
     
  5. waveuk

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    thanks everybody for the replies.

    It looks that unlucky I will have to pay to sky for those channels....

    Maybe in the future I consider having also a motorized dish.
     
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    I think motorized dishes should be illegal tbh.
     
  7. Tight Git

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    Assuming you're serious, perhaps we could hear your reasoning.
     
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    Pretty obvious reasoning they are used to access premium subscription content for free and the broadcasts are not intended for a UK audience. Sky invests heavily in bringing the best sports, movies and television shows to these shores, and they can only afford to do that if people who want access to the best television continue to pay.
     
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    Or they steal our sport , then hold us hostage by selling it back to us . An open market means competition , which keeps prices down . I for one will never have sky again . I treat them with the contempt they showed me whilst I was one of their hostages .
     
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    The only people stealing sport are those who stream illegally online or buy specialist satellite equipment to obtain signals to access broadcasts unintended for consumers in the UK.

    And Sky wouldn't be paying more and more for the rights to the biggest sporting events, television shows and movies if there wasn't an open and extremely competitive marketplace. You can be sure Sky would like to pay less for content to truly maximise their profits.
     
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    So , I want to watch FTA programs from foreign countries ! What's that got to do with anything ?
     
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    Absolute claptrap = although they can be used as such I think you will find that most are used legally for watching free broadcasts which although not intended for the UK are often broadcast with English audio and the EU have issued directives that no member state has the right to prevent reception of any FTA broadcast from any other country. These broadcasts include top movies, US series and most sports (although not free EPL football although you can obtain subscription cards to legally view them in non-commercial premises with far more content than Sky is allowed to provide). The programme material is also paid for legally by most of the broadcasters and they choose to broadcast subscription free.

    Do you by any chance work for Sky or are you a major shareholder? Time to declare your interest.
     
  13. davemurgatroyd2

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    Absolute claptrap again only those using illegal cardsharing are involved in theft in any form. The European Courts of Justice have ruled (confirming the previous status) that it is not illegal to use "foreign" viewing cards in non-commercial premises or watch any FTA broadcast. So you want to restrict people's human rights by depriving them of the ability to view other countries broadcasts purely to fill Sky's coffers.

    BTW I subscribe to a full Sky multiroom package also with BT Sports and Premier Sports yet also have a multi lnb dish (not yet motorised) that allows me to view these broadcasts including for instance FTA broadcasts of boxing matches that are extortionate PPV events on the Sky platform although with a German commentary.
     
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