Discussion in 'Sky Digital TV Forum' started by ianmarrey, Mar 24, 2006.
Sky HD has launched, pre orders on the website
no installation fee, woohoo
Another rip off from sky. I can wait and get the box free in about 6 months LOL
Looks like Sky have been looking over the forums and placed it exactly where everyone thought they would. They've just been monitoring the forums to see what people are prepared to pay.
Unfortunately for them, I'm not prepared to pay £299 for the box after paying £199 for my Sky+ box. I'll wait until it comes down in price.
Why so negative?
This thread has been speculating for months on price and when one can pre-order, so when it arrives all we get are those moaners who will save money by waiting several months till the price drops.
Give us a break.
If we "mugs" want to waste our money and try to get in early, please allow us the opportunity to do so.
Meanwhile the moaners would be better employed dashing down to Tesco for the latest B.O.G.O.F. offers.
p.s. Preordering via the link in this a.m.'s E-mail from Sky is relatively painless and a £30 deposit is not a lot to ask if we get an earlier installation date.
Seems like a sensible figure to me.
When Sky launched, before they gave away free receivers, the receiver cost around £200 ISTR.
When Sky+ launched there was a (quite high) purchase price for the box (unlike the free regular boxes) AND a £10/month subscription, that has since been waved for premium subscribers.
Why expect Sky HD to be any different?
Good news. But on the subjewct of free installation, what exactly is there to install? I thought it was just a new set top box? There's no new dish or connections to install is there? I'm already an existing Sky+ Customer.
Yes but thanks to the people who cannot wait we have to pay over the odds ,if they monitor the forums which it looks like they do should and put down only £50 it might have been a lot cheaper, also I have found out that being i have the top package for normal sky not + i was entitaled to have + free but I have had no 1 from sky ring me up and i have been with them from the start ,so much for looking after the loyal subsribers, oh and its in the small print on there web site so much for making it common. HD I'll wait and watch the early takers get wound up waiting till may or june for box to be installed then find it does not do what it should
The only thing I'm really complaining about is that after paying all the dosh, you only get a handful of channels.
I suppose when I originally purchased sky analogue there were the same amount of channels as the current HD offering. The only thing was then that there wasn't a huge amount of channels to choose from. I would currently only be interested in Sky 1 and National Geographic and I can't imagine that many of the programs shown on these will be HD yet.
So my 'complaining' was for paying out for a very limited number of channels. So I will wait until more HD channels come online. In the meantime where's the local Tesco's while I wait.
I agree and for what being shown on the test progs we have already seen them , also are they realy HD or up scaled SD no one seems to have answered this
It's nobody's fault but sky's that you have to pay as much as you do for HD. They did what any company would do, charge what they think the market can afford. Sky+ has enough adverts on day and night to let you know it's there, if you want it, why shouldn't you pick up the phone and find out how much it costs? I'd much rather ring sky when I want something, than have them cold calling me all the time trying to sell me stuff.
It has been answered several times. Some of the stuff will be native HD, some will be upscaled SD. Either way the picture is going to be significantly better than the non HD channels, even on upscaled SD material. Broadcast quality scalers and better bandwidth, coupled with higher resolution and a better box-screen connection will undoubtedly look great. DVD may take a back seat in some houses whilst Sky Movies HD struts it's stuff.
To me £300 seems reasonable and i dont mind paying the £10 a month. Seems like a lot of people on here are the kind who'd buy a £3000 plasma and then use £10 scart leads with it! Personally my system is worth about £4000 so i dont mind paying an extra £300 an £10 a month.
I wouldn't subscribe to HD if i only had the mixes, but being as i watch a lot of sport and movies its a bargain for me!
Oh, and most programming from the USA is already in HD. Just so you know you dont have to use special HD cameras to get HD, anything recorded to film will already be in HD! Thats why all the big films studios are able to go back to films from days gone by and re-release in HD. Correct me if im wrong by Stargate SG1, Stargate Atlantis, 24, Battlestar Galactica are already in HD just to name a few!
So your £10 a month is likely to get you:
Several hours of HD content on Sky1 daily (all i watch it for is Simpsons, Stargate and Battlestar anyway!)
Most sporting events in HD (world cup + 7/10 matches sky have rights to)
3 or 4 movies a night in HD
Plus plenty of stuff on NG and Artsworld, which i'll just put on when i want to show off my system!
Worth it just for HD Footy and movies... also means i'll be happy to hold off a little while the HD-DVD / Bluray mess sorts itself out.
£300 is about right for such a product so I've pre-ordered mine as well
You guys are bonkers for paying for what should be free!! This technology is well established and Sky have no R&D to cover. I get 12 channels of HD content including true HD movies for free - you should expect the same, but here a few spanners in the works!
Some of us dont have much of a choice, round my area there is no cable options so its really Sky or nothing, even though i did use the cable excuse to get a new Sky+ box
Heh that's nice and all... shame we're not in bleeping Japan are we!?
I mean really, a bit of common sense...
Next we'll get americans telling us "Y'all crazy guys, we get HD for free, for 5 years now! Don't buy SkyHD!"..
Point is, if we don't buy this now, we'll NEVER get free HD broadcasting in the future.
Have to agree wiht most points on here...it's a bit of a no win situation.... we need to pomote HD in order for it to succeed .... otherwise it will flop. If most of us were honest we would admit we knew it would be £200 plus for the box and £10 pm....mind you I was slated on another forum for suggesting these prices....nice to see I was right
It's the same as any product - commercialism and popularity will drive prices down - so go on please buy it !!!
We are YEARS behind Japan as far as HD broadcasting is concerned.
You guys have 100Mb fibre broadband while we jump up and get excited about 4 or 8Mb!
Your mobile phones are a whole generation ahead.
Your plasma screens cost half as much, and your sushi tastes nicer.
You will get the PS3 before we do.
No need to rub it in
I paid £199 for my Sky Digital box in October 1998. Six months later, when they were giving them away for free, I got a discount on my monthly subscription which pretty much refunded the amount I paid foir the box.
That is just your opinion of what 'the odds' should be. Actually, 'the odds' are defined by the market place. It works this way in gambling too, which is where that expression comes from. You can't blame the marketplace, as that is how economics works! Get over it, or move to Cuba. But have they got HD there?
Thats like saying you guys in Japan are stupid for putting up with such small hotel rooms. The UK is a different place, and correspondingly different marketplace.
I cant see why people are soooooo against skyhd and the costs?? If you dont like the price or amount of chanels available from day 1 then dont buy it but dont keep on about it, if like me you dont mind paying the initial premium (as per all new equipment) then just order it and enjoy! £299 + £10 per mth is a small price to pay when your AV kit 3k +
You really believe a massive multi billion pound company like Sky base their pricing of their newest and most ambitious technology yet on the views of some AV enthusiasts on a internet forum, which probably accounts for about 1% of their total customers??
I thought I'd heard it all on these forums.
Please tell me you are both having a laugh.
The mind boggles!
Has it occured to you that some of the prices quoted on the forum in the past few months have been accurate because the info was leaked.
Lots of people 'know someone who knows someone' working in Sky or the electrical retail trade.
A good mate of mine even works for Sky Travel!
How's that then?
Take it you're not a footy fan then.
Nice balanced arguments as usual. Some want it now and are willing pay for it. Some don't and therefore aren't. Some think there's a team of people monitoring AV forums as the key input to their pricing. Some think you're barking mad to believe such a thing. Settled then.
Me? I've paid my £30, will pay the rest of the £300 and the extra tenner / month. I'll then be enjoying my HD world cup footy (finger's crossed) with a cold lager, a tray of dodgy sushi from M&S and a room full of nosey neighbours and mates wanting to see what all the fuss is about and will love every minute of it.
PS I don't know anyone who works for Sky.
the annoying thing is the compulsory install and compulsory reciever, and probably the compulsory phone line connection. For those reasons alone i'll never buy into skyHD. Give me the option of card only and i would reconsider, but they will never do that. I would much rather pay over the odds for a PremiereHD sub and use it in a dvbs2 device of my choosing. At least i'll be able to watch other HD channels that the crippled sky box's wont pick up.
Big Footy fan just not willing to pay another £10 on top of £42+£299.
Telewest gave their boxes out for free, Lets hope NTL do the same.
as for now My Snazzio and unlimited amount of Films and TV series will do courtesy of the Internet and newsgroups
When SKY realise most people just want the HD channels only and not 600 SD channels of pure S#@*#.
Then they can have my money.
Thats one of the funniest posts I've ever seen!
Me? I've bought my lottery ticket. So I'll soon be enjoying my new Aston Martin, posh dinner at the Savoy, followed by all my mates and neighbours poping over to see my new mansion. All fingers crossed of course
What utter rubbish.
You think they care about about the opinion of the few hundred people who post here? I think you'll find it's their consumer surveys and focus groups that are much more important to them.
But not as important as the ECONOMICS, it's the business case that drives how much the product costs.
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