Hi, I *think* I have finally made up my mind about the "sky+" vs "PVR/DVD combo" for me. Please feel free to comment. Having a newborn child see many things go out of the window.. like regular TV patterns And it has recently become a real pain when using the VCR to record things and ensure the right tape is in at the right place so as not to scrub any precious recordings which haven't been watched yet. So, the idea of a HDD device is great! Having read many negative posts about SKY+, I thought that there's got to be something good about this system, and it does sound very good, in THEORY. I currently have SKY, and the EPG is invaluable. So switching to SKY+ would seem a natural step. I also think that the EPG would be a very easy to use for the misses.. series link etc.. The "pause live tv" also seems a great idea.. does this work on ANY channel? I also currently have the "magic eye" thing in the bedroom, which allows me to watch SKY upstairs. Can I still use this with SKY+? And control SKY+ via the magic eye? ie, record this, watch that, pause etc.. That would be an added bonus if it were possible, as watching SKY upstairs is just a must now. The only thing I have concerns about is because of the small HDD space - how much REALISTICALLY are we talking that can be stored? 20 hours of good quality? (not dvd quality of course!!) I would like to archive stuff off the SKY+ HDD onto DVD if possible. How easy is it to do this? Can you just connect a DVD recorder into the SKY+ unit and somehow transfer films/soaps/documentaries across? Can you edit any of the recordings on the HDD before transfering? For example: cut out ad breaks etc..? Can anyone recommend a DVD recorder which does a good job? All my research so far has been with the toshiba 32 or panny e85 pvr/dvd combo units.. Does my thinking make any sense? Or have I totally lost the plot? The only other aspect is the price.. currently as an existing sky subscriber on the family package, i would get charged £199 + £60 installation + £10/month subs + DVD-Recorder price. So i'm looking at, at least £370-£400 straight off, which is about a similar price to the PVR/DVD combo units.. but they don't have EPG etc.. etc.. I don't mind the £10/month if the EPG works and records the progs I want! Your comments/feedback/advice is most welcome and I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you.