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Sky 42" Plasma Entertainment System - The Facts

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by morphman, Nov 26, 2003.

  1. morphman

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    Ok,

    Ive taken the plunge, and bought one. It is due for installation in a couple of weeks.

    I then have 10 days to evaluate it, before I can no longer change my mind about it.

    Ive read a few posts on this board regarding its quality, which seem to be mainly based on opinion, but what I really want to see, is how much better (if at all) it is at running sky, sky+ and picture qulaity for sky broadcasts.

    I am a pretty techy person, but this is my first plasma, and I want to be able to give a very informative review for people to make up their own minds about it.

    I will post any tech specs I find in the manual that should come with it.

    What in particular should I be looking out for regarding running sky, and sky+?

    Which channels are best to look at when judging how the TV displays the picture, Ive heard that different channels have different bitrates.

    What are the issues with other plasma TVs that I can compare against?

    I have seen some Plasmas running in my local Curries, and some look really blocky, and some look bloody marvelous. I will base my picture quality against the ones I have seen in Curries. I will go and find which models they are in the enxt few days.

    Anyone with any current experience with Sky's new Plasma, please post your happiness/grievances.
     
  2. gingerone

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    I have'nt heard anything about this. Could you enlighten me?
     
  3. morphman

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    Sky movie channels have high bit rates, highest bit rate is BBC channels on BBC 1 etc on freeview, (its the best broadcast source in UK at the moment.)
    setup depends on what is availble to you, one thing i can guarantee is that the PQ wont be as good as a CRT that costs half the money, sorry but its true.
     
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    IMO sky is not the best source for judging a large screen of any sort as many channel's low bitrates get shown up on bigger displays.

    Sometimes lower quality sources seem to actually "anti-alias" sky, so a component puv or rgb source can look "blockier" than a composite or svhs one - I personally prefer to see the errors :)

    The first thing I did with my plasma is run the avia set up dvd and a thx optimiser - the brightness seems to be set at insanely high levels on most plasmas out of the box.

    Then its just a matter of using the screen, I viewed a couple of dvds I knew to be great sources.

    Flickering screens and non-black blacks seem to be the two biggest problems on plasma screens, is the contrast ratio or resolution mentioned in any of the paperwork? This information would be a dead givaway as the type of glass used in the screen - I have my money on an "alis" interlaced type screen. I own a Hitachi which uses the same and am very happy with it - however it was markedly cheaper than the sky screen.

    Personally for the money i would go with a panny 6 or a new pioneer :)
     
  6. morphman

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    Info I have so far:-

    Description
    42in super-wide, ultra slim plasma screen
    2 component video inputs
    S-Video input
    2x Scart sockets
    U-XGA input
    800 cd/m2 brightness
    1000:1 contrast ratio
    852x480 pixel resolution
    16:9 widescreen aspect ratio
    160 viewing angle.
    Plus Table top stand and 3 year warranty included.


    Dimensions
    104x63x8cms

    Brand
    Sky

    What Im mostly looking for in a new Plasma, is in the following priorities.

    1. Ability to watch Sky TV with the best possible Quality (This is what I watch most)

    2. Good reliablilty

    3. Lots of geeky features to play with, and good compatibility with the new range of cool remotes that are a bit like PC's.

    4. Good Picture Quality for DVDs.
     
  7. Elvis

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    Isn't this the same as the Techwood plasma? Just more expensive. And with a 'Sky' badge.
     
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    Elvis - Could you post a link to the Techwood?

    ALso, Sky are giving interest free credit, so I guess they add a bti to the price for that privelidge.
     
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    I don't have a link to the Techwood, but there has been lots of discussion about it on this forum recently. Search for some threads.

    IMHO there is nothing special $ky can do to improve picture quality with 'their' plasma, that's down to the bitrate & broadcast quality of the various channels. If they improve that we'll all benefit.
     
  10. FaxFan2002

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    My pa was gonna go for the same, so I talked some sense into him and got

    sky+ upgrade £1 (i think it's £150)
    A toshiba 42" plasma (a panny 5 in real life)
    A panasonic ax (forgot which one) av amp
    A panasonic dvd player (matches above, with component out)
    5 speaker thingy (Gale series, quite good actually - thumping sub)
    All the cables (including a 5m quality component cable)
    for £3,400 for richer sounds (not the sky obiviously).

    Better kit, better quality and cheaper.

    I suspect you can get a very good plasma at 2.5k - 2.8k and a decent all in one system for £300 - £400 - all in about £3k. I bet you can pickup the sky package for about £2.5k


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  11. Gazkicka54

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    It only appeals to peeps who subscibe blindly to Sky and don't actually know anything (or read this forum) about plasma...

    Shop around is the moto (as ever)

    Regards
    Gar
     
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    It's not 'interest free' credit if they add something onto the price is it?

    There are much better deals than this around, $ky are laughing all the way to the bank with every sale of this screen.

    Look around and demo some screens. Don't use Currys, Comet, Dixons et al as your frame of reference for what a plasma (or any TV) will/should look like. You have more chance of winning the lottery than finding a properly set up plasma in any of the high street electrical stores. Go see a specialist before you spend £3K. Unless you've already won the lottery that is.
     
  13. craige247

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    I have the Sky 42" plasma package and it is superb take it from me I have it! take a look at my set up pic.:D :D
     

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    I believe this may be a Samsung panel. Have a look at the performance of other displays around this price point.
     
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    Well, Its here.

    Its pretty good. Im sure its not the best value for money, but im going to keep it, as there is not much quality difference between this and the PW6 (to the untrained eye at least).

    Very lacking in features, but hey, features are those things that you play with for an hour, then get bored anyway. Shame it hasnt got PIP, but im not sure I would really use it.

    All in all, considering the 3yrs interest free, 5 year warranty, and I already know sky engineers are reliable, im happy.

    1 Sticking point. The old v3 Sky+ remotes, dont hold the TV codes for this Telly, so its not possible to control the TV with a Sky+ remote, im not fussed, but some might be. Might see if I can skank a new remote from SkyBuy, considering the picture on page 1 of the TV manual, shows a pic of the Sky+ remote and how to control your TV with it. Doesnt say V4 and above only...

    I also got me a iPaq5450 running PDAWin, with a *WICKED* skin for Sky/Sky+ with channel guide.

    Youll have to excuse the Snowman with the purple hat, thats the missus doing, and the brown turdy thing on the stand - only just noticed that...lol

    By the way, its definateley a DAEWOO model.
     

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    I've got no axe to grind with Sky. I've got Sky + & if that hacked off with them simply blow them out.

    However, even if I did not have a Plasma I would not look to get their package as it stands.Nevertheless many people will on many fronts , from payment terms to installation & from returns policy to not having to go store/supplier hunting.For many it will be convenience & again that's fair enough.

    I agree with Elvis in that Sky will not be able to do anything special with the Plasma with it's own feed unless the bitrate increases.That as he said will benefit all.

    With the above in mind I'm glad Sky are actually looking at the Plasma market.If they sell untits but then get many returnded beacuse of poor PQ then it can be in their own interests to look at the issue.

    They are already entering a market with lots of competition rather than having cornered the market on pay TV.In this instance their involvement is likely to help assuming they can make a go of it.

    Certainly it can't get any worse in terms of their feed/broadcast quality , can it ?
     
  17. Elvis

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    I'm glad you're all happy with your new plasma TVs. Is there any improvement to the quality of the Sky broadcast PQ as a result of it being sky branded, or is it just the same PQ everyone else is getting?
     
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    Im not really sure, but I dont think it is any better...
     
  19. craige247

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    morphman, did you get sky+ with the plasma or did you have it before, I am still waiting for mine to come:confused:
     
  20. morphman

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    No, I already had Sky+ for almost 2 years. You're gonna love it.
     
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    I'd take the pepsi challenge on the sky kit vs. the kit specified earlier in thread. I've seen both (with sky+ and dvd) and let's say in my opinon there is one very very clear winner in both performance and price... I'll let you guess which.
     

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