Sim2 HT300 - any thoughts?

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    I managed to get a quick look at the new Sim2 HT300 at the CEDIA Expo in Indianapolis a couple of weeks ago. It uses the new 16:9 chip from Texas Instruments, and internal Faroudja processing. Unfortunately, Sim2 were only demonstrating the unit with a hi-def feed - which was pretty impressive, but not really relevant (yet) for the UK market - so I was wondering if anybody else had seen the unit in action with a 'normal' source (eg. DVD, Sky etc.).......?
     
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    The projector was at the Live show so I'm sure someone from here must have seen it.

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    The 300 at Live was missing its Faroudga bit Same shape and style as the 200 and 250 except its got a bump on the top like the new Ford Capri had.

    Owl were running a HTPC at 1280x1024 so it was still having to do some remapping. but it was good I didn't see rainbow and the blacks were definitely improved over its predessors. Still a way to go to beat a CRT but we're watching.
     
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    I thought the 16x9 looked sensational at Live 2001 even if the show was far from it.

    The 16x9 looked heaps better than it's 4:3 predecessors. Infact when looking at the HT200DM and 250 (I think the models were) I couldn't help but see visible hatchings on the screen. It looked crud and it really annoyed me to see overspill from the 16x9 screen.

    The price was stated as either £8000 to £10000 pounds. Why don't they know. Perhaps they are waiting for a price reaction at Live. Put it this way....will many people buy a DLP at £10k when you can buy a very decent CRT for the same cash.

    <br />Hmmm...........You thinking wot I am thinking !!

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    You've hit the nail on the head. If picture qualities remain equal then the postage stamp projector gets it every time.

    How equal will they be.....Nothing like it.

    Surely when choosing a projector, you require the best picture for your money, not whether its going to fit in with your room.

    Ofcourse this is a consideration but I would say further down the line. No 1 is picture quality, Surely.

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    I'm curious that no body compared it to the CRT that was also in the demo owl.

    Did anyone see the projector in the What HiFi room?
     
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    <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> Barco 1209 by any chance? <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
     
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    On another note: Which PJ gives better blacks (don't laugh!) the Sony VPL-VW10HT or the Sim2HT200?

    Rob, I agree about the two Sim2 DLP's not much difference to me, if any!

    Also, Rob where did you see the new Sony VPL-VW11HT?

    Cheers,
     
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    Hi,<br />I saw the Sim2 demo at Live 2001.

    <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> I had never seen a projected image look as faultless as the £6500 Sim2 HT200DM (I think that's the model; it was the first of the trio of projectors).

    They showed the Dinosaur "egg" starting sequence from an Arcam fmj player (cir. £1600) which I think has a built-in de-interlacer. This is supposedly the same one that can be bought externally for about £700 and would work with my existing Sony 725 (s-video, rgb or component outs)

    I thought the picture quality was amazing. Blacks looked acceptable, but it was the detail and colour that astounded. Pure colours and more detail than I'm used to with a 32inch widescreen/Sony725 at 5 picture heights away.

    I saw the demo with the 16:9 Farjouda prototype off a Home Theatre-PC and it didn't look any more impressive to me. I think this might have been a Sim2 HT300 prototype????

    I double checked with the Sim2 guy afterwards, who insisted there was a big difference and we left it there!

    I was very impressed, but wonder how goo it would be with a darker print like The Matrix or Alien.

    I think I also saw the newer Sony 11(mumble) projector with built-in doubler and that too was superb.

    This has really opened my eves to the quality of possible from mid-end front projection (i.e. DLP?).

    <img src="confused.gif" border="0"> However, I also saw a pair of circ. £4000 data projectors, one VGA and one XVGA and a 42 inch plasma screen. They were all running off a poorly amped s-video signal with cheap, long cables. The VGA had horrible vertical stripes, the XVGA was clean, but overbright and looked washed out. I think the token plasma was deliberately set-up to look as bad as possible and they succeeded.

    Your Comments appreciated.<br />regards,<br />Rob.

    [ 30-09-2001: Message edited by: Rob Screene ]</p>
     
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    Yep, sorry Roland, I did watch the Barco in the What Hi-Fi demo. It was about half the size of a Ford Fiesta, so I hadn't even remembered it.

    The picture was excellent (well probably perfect to my amatur eyes), showing a long clip from The Gladiator. I just don't see myself ever having space in a home that it'd give-up for it.

    The Sim2 demo's third projector was a CRT jobbie, housed in a large ply box, so I didn't see what it was. It was used to display a high-definition video of overhead footage from the USA.

    I was still most impressed with the HT200DM!

    Graham, I'm not totally sure if the projector in the Sony room was a 10 or 11 model. The room was running 4 large Sony floorstanders (look nautilus-like to me) with external dome tweeters, with a pair of rel strata sized active sub cubes, off a new circa. £700 Sony integrated amp. The sound was excellent, and I'm used to a Denon A10SE through Linns with a large single active sub. Very dynamic, but no harshness I noticed.

    The black level on the Sony looked excellent, again with a gladiator clip. I can't compare it to the Sim2 HT200DM because the Dinosaur clip I was was mainly bright scenes. From the no-signal leakage I saw, I'd saw the HT200DM's black-level was just about adequate for my tastes.

    How do the Sony's compare on price with the £6500 Sim2 HT200DM?

    I wonder how the quality compares to plasma screens in the £4000-£7000 price range? I'd be quite happy to sit 5 picture heights from a 42 inch plasma, so I imagine the picture would fill a large amount of my peripheral vision?

    regards,<br />Rob.
     

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