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Silencing upgraded Sky+ box...

Discussion in 'Sky Digital TV Forum' started by palmman50k, Feb 14, 2005.

  1. palmman50k

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    Hi,
    I've recently upgraded my Sky+ box with a Samsung SP1614N 160Gb hard drive, which is working great, but the only problem is that my wife doesn't like the noise the box now makes. The drive is a lot louder than the original drive. Following the post on actually doing the upgrade, my only problem was that the bits of metal with the thermal pads on them didn't line up in any way with the chips on the new drive.
    I bought this drive as it was on special offer and seemed to be better than the SP1604N drive others have used (1614 has 8Mb cache, 1604 2Mb cache).
    The only PC I have access to normally is a laptop, so I can't easily plug it in to tweak firmware (although I do have an IDE to USB drive adaptor...).
    :lease: Anyone with any ideas on how I can make it quieter will really help me as my wife says she wants me to put the old drive back, and I just LOVE having all that extra space for recording (still over 60% free, with LOADS of recordings!!!).
    Thanks.
     
  2. Nick_UK

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    Upgrading to a bigger drive causes the Sky+ box fan to be continuously on. There isn't much you can do about it.
     
  3. palmman50k

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    I'm sure some people reported that not to be the case...
     
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    Really ? Where ? :confused:
     
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    Maybe it's possible to swap the fan for a quieter one?
     
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    I'm no expert but the original poster is correct, depending on the drive and the Sky+ box seems to have a bearing on fan noise (constantly on or not) and also the noise the drive makes itself. It's prudent to do a lot (and I mean a lot) of research on this and other forums before deciding on the ideal hard drive to pop in your particular Sky+ box. If you pop any old HD in then you're most likely to suffer the symptoms you've described.
     
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    the 160 gb hard drive i put in to upgrade my harddrive was the same model as the one they put in the sky + 160 box cost £53 and very quiet, fan hardly ever comes on way way quieter than the original standard 40gig harddrive the box came with
     
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    myself and a few other people have purchased the MAXTOR 4R160L0 this is a quickview drive with all the acoustic management switched on, this drive is also 5400rpm and as far as i know its the 160 drive in the new sky 160 box, i have fitted it to mine and its very quiet appart from the odd clicking noise the drive makes when recording, this is barely audible and only noticed if the tv sound is very low, the fan also come son less than my previous drive, i have filled the drive up and carried out many duel recording all with no problems so far after 3 weeks
     
  9. palmman50k

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    what is the make and model of the drive and where did you get it from?
     
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    MAXTOR 160GB 5400RPM 2MB ATA133 D-MAX16 4R160L0 from technoworld

    although they have put the price up now greedy of them
     
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    i have 250g maxtor in, but b4 installing it into skybox it needs the noise managment feature to b switched on using pc
     
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    I have a Samsung 1614N in my sky+ box. The fan was constantly on even though the box is cool. So to get the FAN noise down I did this. Its now so quiet like its not there even though its on all the time. And important thing is the box is cool and quiet.

    The idea is to run the sky+ fan at 5V. It can still kick-start and will run continously but at a lower speed (about less than half) and also quieter (less than 3-6dB). Flow rate is more than sufficient to achieve cool-down of always-on sky+ box.

    Go to Maplin and get these items:

    1. Fan Multi-Connector Cable ZM-MC1
    http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=34544&TabID=1&source=15&WorldID=&doy=17m2

    2. Power supply Y-Cable
    http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=10951&TabID=1&source=17&WorldID=&doy=17m2

    £10 Process to achieve 'SKY+ FAN Silence':
    1. Remove the cover of the sky+ box (you would already knwo how to do this as you have already installed a new HDD)
    2. Take out the power connector to the HDD.
    3. Stick in the correct end of the Y-Cable into the power connector from (2)
    4. Stick one of the two ends of the Y-cable into the HDD.
    5. Stick the end of the Fan Multi-Connector cable to the second end of the Y-Cable
    6. Take out the 2-pin connector of the SKY+ fan
    7. Stick in the FAN 2-pin connector into the 5V connector of the FAN Multi-Connector. (You may have to shave off some bits of the fan power connector before you can connector it in.) Make sure you connect both together in a way that u line up the black to the black wires and the red to the red wires. Otherwise fan direction may be reversed. You dont want that.
    8. Use Velcro to 'bend' the long cables around the HDD to the back.


    Have fun!

    Eye in the Sky
     
  13. palmman50k

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    WOW!!!!!
    I am so excited if this works! I think I need to go home via Maplin tonight if they've got them in stock.
    Thank you SO much for the reply, I will try it out ASAP.
    My wife was asking me to put the old drive back and I'd filled up half the new one, so I didn't want to do that.

    I'll post back when it's done!!!

    Thanks. :clap:
     
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    I've finally managed to do the 'fix' and it has definately cut down on the noise levels!!!!
    Thanks for the reply.
    The wife still says she can hear it, but it's much more acceptable now, so hopefully I can keep it :thumbsup:

    Cheers.
     
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    Good to know that! After a while the 'noise' will unconsciously go away and no one will notice it. She wouldn't even notice it. When the summer comes, if you want to get more air flow, you can connect to the 12V. Well, you can wait and see if you need to do this. Under normal circumstances, I don't think so. 5V will be good enough.
     
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    Thanks again.
    It seems to be running fine at the moment.
    I expect my friends and family with out-of-warranty boxes to now start asking me to do their's :rolleyes:
     
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    What is the hard drive used in the 160 boxes then?
    Thanks
     
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    I am planning to use this drive. Does the fan run when the box is in standby mod? i.e. does the fan run 24 hrs a day?
     
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    I think that depends on whether you have instant rewind on. If it's not on, the drive spins down, and (maybe) the fan stops too. It's hard to be clear, because Sky change the firmware quite often, and different behaviours result.
     
  20. palmman50k

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    If anyone is still monitoring this thread, there is still a low frequency noise coming from my box that my wife does not like.
    Any ideas on how to silence it even more? (Variable speed fan with temp. gauge?)
    Thanks. :lease:
     
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    Try attaching a muzzle from one side of the head to the other tied at the back.

    You should find a noticable difference in perceived nagging. :D
     
  22. palmman50k

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    Tried that, but it was really messy at meal times :rolleyes:
     
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    The noise coming from the Sky+ box can vary greatly depending on the material that the box is standing on. TV stands with flimsy shelves can act as a "sounding board" and actually amplify the noise. If you can't stand your box on something substantial, try the old trick of cutting a couple of squash balls in half, and stand the box on the "domes" made from the halves.
     

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