Should we change the lyrics to the national anthem?

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  1. Stuart Wright

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    Prompted by this thread asking about the relevance of the lyrics, what do you think?
    Is the objection just to the reference to God, which doesn't exist for many people or is different for others?
    Or should the national anthem make less reference to the monarchy also?
     
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    It should be Jerusalem, sod the Scots/welsh/Irish - they want devolution anyhow.

    *humour.
     
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    Leave us out of the devolution debate please:clap:
     
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    That's right - the odds and sods on the periphery have their own anthems, it's about time the English had an anthem. :D

    Seriously, God Save The Queen is well past it's sell-by date and a completely new anthem is needed to reflect our society as it is now (in loose general terms of course).

    Also, the new anthem should stay clear of any references to the monarchy and religion or deities.
     
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    How DARE you suggest that??

    Besides, London wants to be a separate country as well! :rolleyes:
     
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    I voted no as I like GSTQ but if an overwhelming majority want to change it (via referendum) then I will proudly sing the new anthem as I do currently with GSTQ
     
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    The Queen is the head of the C of E. How are you going to leave out God?
     
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    No, but England, Scotland, Wales and NI should have their very own anthems to represent the country, as the UK itself is not actually a country, it is a corporat....err a sovereign state.
     
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    Adrian, PLEASE don't bring the worst rock band in the world EVER into this.
     
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    Wouldn't matter to me, I don't know our current anthem - I'm not sure a new one would perk interest.
     
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    I can't answer yes or no. I think we need a new anthem to reflect the nation we are now.

    I find the GSTQ/K offensive, both musically and lyrically.
     
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    Unlike you Stuart to start a thread with a poll :confused: :)
     
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    Can we have the option for "I don't know the lyrics to the current anthem" option.
     
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    Leave out both of them?
     
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    Punk* :facepalm:
     
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    No, certainly not.

    Mae hen wlad fy nhadau is perfectly fine and quite stirring actually.:smashin:
     
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    She's many things that are not mentioned in the anthem though.

    Why is that part of her so vital , the anthem should be inclusive of all of GB .

    To my mind that means it needs some tweaking, we sure a hell don't rule the waves.

    Maybe it's time for some new lyrics.

    Something that doesn't alienate many folks and one that is more in keeping with us in 2012.
     
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    We could include topics such as benefits,umemployment,recession,divorce,infidelity,tv soaps,swearing,bargain booze,drugs,suicide,bankers,rain,gangsters,consumerism,facebook,diy...
    Probably a few more....:D
     
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    ^^^ but I thought people didn't want it to be about the royals
     
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    They should change it to "Bond save the Queen"

    We all know he exists, we saw him take her to the opening ceremony. And if she ever did need saving, we all know he's the man for the job.
     
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    ^^ why not just have the actual Bond theme?
     
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    Even though I'm an atheist, I don't think we should change the first verse because it's a significant part of our tradition. It could be good to add a new second verse, although it would be hard to write something that wouldn't sound very kitschy.
     
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    or the second verse could be from the Sex Pistols' version
     
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    Personally I think we could do with a change, lyrics yes, but mostly the tune itself.

    I'd get rid of references to god and the queen. I don't think it's particularly relevant and at the end of the day who's going to get upset?... certainly not a fabricated deity (which as far as I can see exists purely to scare young children) or the queen, she's got to be seriously pig sick of listening to that turgid tune. I'm pretty sure most of the time she just wants to go home, put some comfy pants on and watch Eastenders.

    The national anthem is just too long. At sporting events you're hanging around for ages whilst this tawdry drivel drones on. I feel sorry for anyone suffering from Narcolepsy... "God save our... ZZZzzzzzzzzzz".

    However, there are other mistakes to be made, take the Italian national anthem. Who on earth thought It would be a good idea to have a key change half way through. That's what lazy musicians do when they run out of ideas mid song (Chris de Burgh, Billy Joel, et al.). A national anthem isn't so long that you require a key change.


    ...so in short I'd go for a bland innocuous lyric that absolutely doesn't cause offence to absolutely everyone globally (also Organic and Dolphin friendly) and I'd go for a brief peppy tune, something along the lines of that very fine accompanying music to the 'Go Compare' TV advertisements.

    :)
     
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    well, we seriously need to think about writing a new tune - as she's getting on a bit and it doesn't seem an appropiate anthem for whem we get a king...

    I'm guessing we had other anthems in the past when we had other kings?
     
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    Yeah, god save the king :laugh:
     
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    My Hen Will Lay F All No how?

    What about The Red Flag for a national anthem.:smashin:

    a rousing tune written by an Irish man.
     
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    Agreed, everyone knows the Welsh have been devolving for years :smashin:
     
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    Hi,

    Rather than changing the lyrics to the current National Anthem, why not start a competition to write a whole new one: something that isn't full of jingoistic patriotism, or allegiance to King, Queen nor country? Something that doesn't feature religion or spirituality in any form, but which just teaches everyone to be respectful, decent human beings to each other, no matter who they are, where they live, or which nation they come from? :confused:

    That sounds more like an appropriate National Anthem for 21st Century Britain to me, than "God Save The Queen" will ever be.


    Pooch
     

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