BrightonChris
Ex Member
advocating for mandatory vaccinations is as abhorrent a position as being anti vax.
Except I’m not advocating for that.advocating for mandatory vaccinations is as abhorrent a position as being anti vax.
The point is, are you happy to have a vaccinated person spread and give you Covid at the venue you're attending? With such a high proportion of hospitalised cases being double vaxxed and more cases being vaxxed than not, it seems nonsensical to stop unvaccinated from entering, tested or not, but give the vaccinated free rein to potentially infect others.
If the consequences are too severe then it isn’t a choice. Right now it’s just night clubs. If you think it’ll stop there then I’d say that’s naive
I think that depends on how effective it is!I think it's a big bluff to increase uptake!
I suspect this is shroud waving and may not happen but creating the fear that it might could nudge the apathetic towards getting vaccinated.That would be fine in my opinion.
But barring unvaccinated people is morally wrong in my opinion.
As the above poster put, it's fine for vaccinated people to go out and catch/spread but unvaccinated are being punished. Again 60% of hospital admissions are unvaccinated, that means the other 40% are vaccinated, that's quite a high proportion. So the vaccine clearly isn't as effective as initially thought (was supposed to minimise hospitalisation/strain on the NHS).
I do understand that in theory if you've been vaccinated you shouldn't get it as bad or die, but if you end up hospitalised we're back to the whole "strain on the NHS" thing.
I think it's a big bluff to increase uptake!
Given the vast majority of adults are happy to have the vaccine, I don't see how it do any harm. If vaccination rates were less than 20% then I would understand, but 88% of the adult population have had their first dose.If not, it's another nail in the coffin for the events industry - an industry that cannot take any more punitive measures from the government...
Pubs have been fine for ages, but nightclubs and music events are a big no-no.
The argument I heard yesterday is by stopping unvaccinated from going to nightclubs, you are protecting them from potentially much worse outcomes .Also some people are too young to have the jab. Also having the vaccine doesn't stop you from catching and spreading Covid. I don't think vaccine passports should be implemented.
Given the vast majority of adults are happy to have the vaccine, I don't see how it do any harm. If vaccination rates were less than 20% then I would understand, but 88% of the adult population have had their first dose.
The current dashboard says 46.3 million first doses have been administered.Unfortunately the 88% figure is a bit misleading. Looking at the age ranges of those who've received at least one dose
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Are enough people vaccinated in time for England’s ‘freedom day’?
Four charts that show why the big unlocking could be coming too soonwww.theguardian.com
Then for those aged 18-30 you have around 50% of the population without even the first dose. Precisely the ag of those who go to clubs.
Really evidence ahem. Yes they were more likely to get sick statistically unvaccinated but I have seen nothing saying that is still the case when vaccinated and certainly nothing saying they are more likely to spread it.I think It might be a good idea to ban the vaccinated obese too seeing as they are more likely to spread the virus about.
The policy, assuming it goes ahead, is not coming into force until the end of September. That’s ample time for any unvaccinated 18-30s to get both jabs.Then for those aged 18-30 you have around 50% of the population without even the first dose. Precisely the ag of those who go to clubs.
Really evidence ahem. Yes they were more likely to get sick statistically unvaccinated but I have seen nothing saying that is still the case when vaccinated and certainly nothing saying they are more likely to spread it.
Evidence please.I think It might be a good idea to ban the vaccinated obese too seeing as they are more likely to spread the virus about.
See above andEvidence please.
The policy, assuming it goes ahead, is not coming into force until the end of September. That’s ample time for any unvaccinated 18-30s to get both jabs.
They are going to start vaccinating 17 year olds shortly if 18 within 3 months.What about if you turn 18 in October? Birthday plans ruined
The current dashboard says 46.3 million first doses have been administered.
England Summary | Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK
Official Coronavirus (COVID-19) disease situation dashboard with latest data in the UK.coronavirus.data.gov.uk
How is that not correct?
It does look like it.
I forgot about the dog in blade 3.
I'll have rewatch blade again soon.
Edinburgh film festival had a themed experience night showing blade, then recreating the nightclub scene in 2018 for 20th anniversaryAfter conducting extensive research* I must sadly inform you that these were two different locations. That said, one might argue that blood is relevant in both cases - a negative test for one, and BYOB for the other.
* two googles and a youtube I believe is the standard to meet this definition
If anyone does that on this thread then let us know.advocating for mandatory vaccinations is as abhorrent a position as being anti vax.
Around 13 million of them are under 1846.3 million doses in a country of 66 million still leaves 20 million without a shot and most of them are below the age of 39