Discussion in 'OLED TVs Forum' started by j77all, May 1, 2019.
seek guidance from the forum
New is always better but you pay for it
This period is the best ever as 2018 TVs hit close to rock bottom to make space for 2019 stock
Do I want the new pana? of course. But is it worth the extra 500-800 pounds versus a c8 or zf802..(55)
Only you can answer that
Don’t ignore c9 too if you looking 2019 models.
If you go 2018, both TVs are stellar and I will go with the cheapest. Phil best 2018 tv review resume it well.
It's the age old question that comes up every year whether it's a TV or a receiver. I've only just bought a 65FZ802. I'm delighted with and the last time I changed a TV was six years ago when I bought a 50VT65. If I'd bought the FZ for, was it, £3800 when it hit the stores and then found it selling for £2100 I'd be gutted.
May as well wait till most of the oleds are out this year, then make a decision. The new Panasonic's will be better than the current Panasonic oleds out,they have Dolby vision as well, unlike the f802. Was one of the reasons that I didn't spend 4k on the F802 when other sets did have it,and for a lot cheaper too.
Same goes for the c8,this years LG sets are better spec'd and seems to have higher brightness than last years.
If it was a c8 vs F802 then I would say go for the f802 even though no DV but for me I'd rather have the f802 accuracy .
Plus LG still haven't fixed the flashing issue which bothers LG sets far more than other sets.
See forum members got the 65 pana for £1399 so it tells you how low it can get..
New is ALWAYS better but you pay for it...too much at the start...
I saw one advertised at an online store for £1600 but it was a two year old refurb. They do seem to have gone up in price this last week. I bought at £2099, now the majority are showing £2499.
That’s a very bizarre move !!!
When you think 55gz950 is positioned at £1799 or less....
I expect to see the prices go back close to £1200 or even lower within couple of weeks...
He bought the 65-inch model for that not the 55-inch.
My comment was more relative to the Pana general price hike
Good news is it went back down today
They must be reading this forum
People keep mentioning that but it was a pricing error that people sprang on.
It happened. The real point of that is that 2018 models will hit the lowest point in the coming weeks.
There is always a choice to be made between what was (2018) and what is going to be (2019). The answer is always the same, latest is usually better but certainly not value at launch...
I saw yesterday in RS both TVs with the same video - fz802 / c8. I went there to buy the c8 but after seeing what a massive difference in PQ and details was between the 2, I ordered the Pana. It was £1,250, price matched with district electrical.
I know they were not calibrated but I'm interested in the best PQ out of the box and the FZ wiped the floor with the c8.
I would go for the C8 and the Panasonic G950 entry model doesn’t have a black filter like the Panasonic Fz802 model. And I have seen the LG C9 looked identical to the C8 model.
You are sure about gz950 not having a black filter?..all the models the same except top 2000 one...
No mention of a black filter here:
PANASONIC 55" Premium 4K-HDR Smart OLED TV with DOLBY ATMOS | Power Direct
All the rest get a mention of one.
I will be very surprised if it comes without one. Doesn’t make sense
It is rather cheap, got to cut costs somewhere - makes the FZ look tempting now eh?
If you own an Oppo 4K Blu-Ray player or the Cambridge Audio 4K Blu-Ray player there are other things that can be done to make blacks even blacker though eg Metadata Strip. Having an expensive 4K Blu-Ray player comes in handy in the end. So basically I am saying if you get the entry Panasonic Oled u can make the blacks even blacker depending on what 4K Blu-Ray player you have.
Yep, getting one Saturday and can’t wait
You do realise the entire AVForums staff own an LG Oled right? And why do you think that is?
I love both TVs but always preferred the picture from pana. Pana is the most cinematic/accurate picture while LG is best overall...(Phil best of 2018)
at the end, price decided it for me as could have gone either. As simple as that.
Yep, not knocking your decision just making you aware of all the facts on here. Your decision is best and I would be tempted by it too. Btw - what the hell does the most cinematic TV mean anyway?
Here it is:
Panasonic FZ952 (TX-65FZ952B) Review
In the conclusion summary it refers twice to accurate picture colours like you. I still don’t know exactly what cinematic means though only referring to the most accurate colours. It does appear to say it’s a little blacker and brighter. And just accurate - interesting.
The black filter is to reduce external light not make the OLED produce deeper blacks. It already does absolute black.
I would trust the Panasonic website over a retailer's list of specs.
To be honest had you scrolled down on the Power Direct site and clicked on Specs then it also showed the Absolute Black Filter under 'Panel'
All the 2019 models are the same panel-wise apart from the brighter GZ2000.
I seem to recall Panny doing it on cheaper plasmas and got a roasting for it.
The FZ802 won the HDTV OLED shoot out, which I believe AVF had a representative there. Just because staff members all are reported to have LG doesn't mean everyone else has to fall in line. Choice is a wonderful thing.
It was Vincent Teoh and his HDTV test who set up the shoot out with help from other calibrators .
Many avf users went to the shootout,I was there myself and voted for the f802 as for me it had the best pic,but was 4k at the time and 1500 more than the c8. So didnt buy
Were you the handsome one sitting at the front...…...thought not.
It was this shoot out that made me decide on the FZ.
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