Should i hold off on a service....

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  1. kBm

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    My 40,000 mile service is due, but im considering holding off until the summer when i have more money. By then i would of done 50,000 miles. Its a 56 plate so its still within the warranty and i'm stuck with the dealers prices!

    Will this effect the FSH?

    :confused:
     
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    You are NOT stuck with dealer prices! As long as your mechanic uses 'suitable' parts, then the warranty isn't affected... It's been that way for a few years now...

    Save yourself a few quid and find a good independant specialist.
     
  3. Mylo

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    what car is it ?

    My Leon needs an oil service every 10k and wouldn't be worth risking for the sake of a few quid.
     
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    If you do a bit more googling you will find that this has now been reversed. The manufacturers argued that technical bulletins are not sent to un-approved dealers and so servicing can not be completed correctly. To my knowledge, this was upheld.... sadly.

    I had this very issue happen with my ape (see sig link). I took it to a non Aprilia dealer for a service, it was done but and important bulletin was missing from the un-approved dealer and the service was done incorrectly -later corrected by an aproved Aprilia dealer.

    sucks eh:mad:
     
  5. kBm

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    Vauxhall Astra.

    The 40,000 service will top £200.

    ...Which i have not got spare. :eek:
     
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    Exceeding the milage may invalidate the warranty, if something goes wrong at 40k+ plus they could just turn round and say it should of been serviced and give you a bill.

    Warrantys wont be affected if you go to an authorised garage for the service.
     
  7. Monty Burns

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    Ahh and by the way, dont forget a warranty is ON TOP of your consumer rights. Another long story short but Aprilia tried to wriggle out of replacing my front wheel under warranty (its an 07 plate). I said thats fine, instead, the dealer that sold me the bike will replace the wheel under "Not of merchantable quality" of the Sales Of Goods Act. Suprisingly after stating this, the dealer and Aprilia have come to a compromise and i'm now getting a new front wheel again, free.:thumbsup:

    The Sales Of Goods Act covers you for 6 years from "birth" of the vehicle. You may well want to ask Consumer direct regarding the milage but I would imagine this is the usual 10000 per year. If in any doubt, ring Consumer Direct run by trading standards and they can back up all of this.
     
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    Isn't 40K a belt service on an Astra?
     
  9. kBm

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    I'll check the manual.

    Surely an extra 10,000 miles won't do any harm.....? :rolleyes:
     
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    If 40K is a belt service, I would strongly advise getting it done, primarily for warranty. Also, a cam belt failure, if not covered under warranty, can be very expensive.
    Worth checking. :)
     
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    a failed cam belt will set you back up to £3k :eek: so be careful mate.
     
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    40k is a cambelt service on an astra-get it done! Suggest you read the other thread about the scenic!
     
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    It can be anything from £80 to £10K for a cam belt going, sadly most modern engines are 16v or higher which means they are 'interference' engines eg the valves hit the pistons when the belt snaps and the timing goes out.

    Along with the Scenic thread check out the windscreen thread, wouldn't like to see your thread in a couple of months time.

    Sadly motors are £££ all the time, is there ever a good time for any work? you'll just need to miss some treats out for a few weeks.

    Liam
     
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    40k seems very low for a cambelt change, thought 60k is the safe minimum. Plus has anyone mentioned if its a diesel as some have chains and are good for 100k easy.

    If the belt does snap its cheaper and easier to get a new head from the local scrappy, costs would be alot less then a rebuilt head, £400-500 i'd say.

    I'm glad my mk1 mr2 4age engine is non-interference, why dont they make more cars like this.
     
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    You can have your car serviced anywhere so long as they use parts to the original manufacturer specification. They don't have to be OEM parts, but to be honest most of the money is spent on labour so it may be worth getting these as GM parts aren't too expensive.

    Nationwide Autocentres will do it for a lot less and your warranty will not be affected at all.

    All the major lease companies send their non "premium" brands outside the OEM network at any opportunity for routine servicing. They do use main dealers for warranty work, but only to once again reduce cost.
     
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    You might want to double check that, read my previous post in this thread along with my own example of why you can't - at least, if you wan't to keep a warranty. This is all the more relevant with newer and newer models and the complex systems they involve i.e. more and more "dealer only" bulletins.

    I suspect the lease companies have a bit more negotiating power than us lowly consumers and may be able to get special deals with the manufacturers.:confused: Its possible that Nationwide also have negotiated a special deal etc I guess although i'd be really hesitant and double check this with the manufacturer.

    That all said, a warranty ain't worth the paper its written on as you have your consumer rights and the Sales of Goods act which is far more powerfull. Again, see my example in previous post in this thread.
     
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    No need to check my previous post, I work for one of those leasing companies and it is EU law to prevent manufacturers forcing you to have your car serviced at a main dealer that affords you the protection.
    Hope this helps, the key is in accordance with......

    This text is from BERR website:

    Q4. What effect will the new block exemption have on the car repair and servicing market?

    These changes will mean more competition in the servicing and repair market leading to lower costs and higher standards for consumers.
    The after-sales market will be opened up, with a change to the rules linking new car sales and servicing. Dealers will still have to ensure that customers' cars are serviced and repaired to manufacturer-approved standards, but they will no longer have to do it themselves; and, independent garages and roadside assistance organisations will have much greater access to technical information, including diagnostic equipment and software.
    Dealers will be freer to determine how they run their businesses. The better the service they offer, the more they will be rewarded. Poor performers will find it
    harder to survive.
     
  19. Monty Burns

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    It does indeed clear things up :thumbsup:

    Having spent a few seconds trying to google it, I can't for the life of me find out where I heard about manufacturers appealing and winning on the grounds of technical bulletins etc. Maybe I was told a bit of a "Jack":D
     
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    My cambelt is 72k or 5 years old. Which is next year... and the change costs from £500 on Clio 182's :thumbsdow not looking forward to that one!
     
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    £500 sounds expensive, yes its a 2.0l and space is limited but a cambelt change is an easy job. I could do mine on my mr2 in a couple hours. BMW is a chain so wont be worrying about that while i have the car :thumbsup:
     
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    Renault themselves charge nearly £1000 for it! However the Cup edition costs around £250. I think it's the air-con unit that does it :rolleyes:
     
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    a genuine cambelt kit with tensioner, roller and water pump etc, will cost about £100 if VAG engines are anything to go by and then the labour price on top.

    40k mile first change is becoming more common and not worth the risk of missing it.

    Having seen what happens to a 20vt when the belt fails I'm glad I got mine changed on schedule :eek:
     
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    After reading your horror stories, its booked in for later this week! Plus, the other half put the thumb screws into action too.....:rolleyes: :D
     
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    On the rather low 40k mileage limit for a cambelt change.....i seem to remember a Watchdog feature a few years ago, where a lot of owners were having failures above 40 but below the stated interval for change(was at least 60k). Vauxhall were being "unsympathetic", even when the cars had a full main dealer service history. If i remember correctly, the result of this was the change interval being lowered to 40k.

    Just checked the service schedule for my Mk.2 Focus(Duratec 16V), and the cam belt change is recommended at 100k or 8 years.
     
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    Yeah ford focus are 100k but then ive heard alot of people not waiting and changing it around 80k.
     
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    Got my car back, and they didn't even wash the car! :thumbsdow
     
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    Be very, very glad about that! Just go around to the valet room and see the sponges lying on the floor, now imagine the grit on your paint work :eek: They may charge you extra for the swirls...
     

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