Answered Should I get a 4k Disc Player

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    1. johnr2110

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      I already own a 55” Panasonic oled and can’t decide whether to buy a 4k player to go with it.
      As UHD HDR discs are grossly over priced, purchases would be few. So it would be used to upgrade 1080p discs.
      Should I get one or not?
       
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      Post #10 by AndyRg4, Oct 24, 2018 (1 points)
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      No, if you aren't going to buy UHDs as TV will upscale 1080p blu-rays.

      But UHD discs are available from less than £10 if using the 5 for 50 euros offers on amazon.it or amazon uk special deals.

      Lowish prices if buying 2nd hand on the UHD classifieds forum here. You can also buy UHDs, watch, and then sell on; having, in effect, a disc rental service.
       
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      So why do people claim that their standard Blu-rays look better when played on a 4k player?
       
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      Sales talk.
       
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      Assuming they are viewing on a 4K TV or Projector, then the upscaling will give a perceived improvement compared to watching on a HD TV. (If you use a 4K player with a HD TV then there will be no difference at all.

      Bill
       
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      If you have an Atmos system, some manufactures only provide the Atmos soundtrack on the UHD disc, not the standard disc, which is a pain, so that is one reason.

      If you want top notch HDR then a UHD disc with a 4K player is the only option, as streamed HDR is not always the best.

      In the end only you can decide by going to a dealer and trying a few out. (Don’t forget to see if you are happy with the menu system and noise as well)

      Bill
       
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      Or join cinemaparadiso. Decent range of 4K discs to rent. More being added all the time.
       
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      I think streaming and UHD disc's go hand in hand. Streaming just for the convenience, but that is it.
      For sound quality, and yes a better picture you will not beat a UHD disc. also if you have a good sound system then it is a no brainer to have a UHD disc player, streamed sound is still only at Dolby digital surround level, not much better than you find on a DVD disc.
       
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      I kept asking myself the same question, but should I sell my 4k player.

      Then I watched The Darkest Hour on UHD disc.. The picture and sound quality is far superior to any streaming content. Watching that film alone made my mind up straight away.

      Sold all my blu-rays, I will buy a few UHD films but what I'd call classics or my best
       
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      My answer would be 'why wouldn't you buy one?'
      Grante, yes, that when they were first released, the expense may not have been worth it but with players (such as the Panasonic DMPUB300) available for £100, why not take the plunge. All of your existing blurays and DVDs will still work and, like some comments above, will open up the option of HDR and Atmos. I own far more Blurays than I do UHD discs but the collection is increasing as the discs have gotten cheaper and are included in the multi buy options.
       
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      Yes! I’m enjoying searching out reference discs for both picture and Atmos and loving it. Just a handful of discs, all sourced from these forums, and traded on when done. It’s great for showing off what your system can do and there’s no debate that some of these discs can look extraordinary. It’s a vote from me :)
       
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      To all of those who’ve replied, Thank you. I’m now more likely to take the plunge.
       
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      I'd vote yes - seems a shame to have your 4K UHD TV but not feed it the best input that is currently available - 4K UHD discs.

      Your TV is probably already doing a very good job of upscaling your regular blu-rays, so I would not expect a UHD player to do a significantly a better job. Unless you really, really look for it. I can't see any difference with my setup (between TV vs player 1080p blu-ray upscaling). So that's not where I think you will be likely to appreciate much difference or improvement.

      Also don't go in expecting a big uptick from the increase in resolution in a UHD disc - compared to a top quality regular blu-ray that is - this can be fairly negligible (depending on scene/ movie) since most movies are mastered at 2K, not 4K I believe. See this Youtube video for a discussion of this.

      However I'm beginning to appreciate that HDR can be a revelation and a much more impactful upgrade. Like all things display-related, it's all very subjective though how much you'd appreciate it. Happy shopping :)
       
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      Xbox one X for me. Surprisingly quiet & good for UHD disks and you get to play Red Dead redemption 2 in 4k too. :)

      Dolby Vision coming soon too.
       
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      I have an xbox one x which seems to do the job. Has anybody upgraded from an xbox one x to a dedicated player and noticed a quality improvement? Been tempted to get the lg UBK90 to match the B7 but not sure if it is worth it
       
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      The video and audio quality you'd get via one player will be much the same as you get from another. The reasons for using a dedicated player over and above the XBox would be more to do with the noise and maybe some of the HDMI handshake issues some XBox users have had issues with. You can go spend 3 or 4 more times what the cheapest UHD disc players cost on another player and still not see any difference in video performance or hear anything you couldn't hear using the cheaper player. People spend more for other features such as analogue output stages and DACs or purely to attain a higher build quality.

      I'd also not purely base a purchase upon it being the same make as the display. Buy a player based upon the player's own abilities and what you want from it. An LG player uses the exact same standards to convey a signal as any other player and will not perform better with other LG products than those other players.
       
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      I don't have any experience of xbox but the OP may find this Youtube Review of the Sony UBP player (the one I have) that I came across recently useful. If I recall this reviewer said he gave the xbox a try but wasn't that happy with it.
       
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      **johnr2110** every situ is different. I have a Loewe 40 inch 1080p TV with an Oppo 203. I borrowed the popular UHD set of PE2/ BP2 and was most impressed
       
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      On Amazon, a Samsung UHD player and five disks. £200.

      Enter
      "Samsung 4K Player + 5 UHDs (Limited Edition Zoom Exclusive Hardware Bundle) [UHD]"

      into the search.
       
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      As others have said, if you want the absolute best picture and sound quality then 4K Blu Ray is the way to go.

      I use the Xbox One X for this purpose and find it excellent.
       
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      I have Panny UB700 and the xbox x, purely because I have the sound set different from films to gaming... Also I didn't want the kids messing with thd Xbox when watching blu-rays.

      There is a slight difference in quality, but to be honest thd UB700 is a reference player and really is superb for the money.
       
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      Are there any players out there with dual HDMI outputs and can play 4k rips over a network? Reason I ask is because I've ripped all my standard Blu-Rays to hard drive and play through my Shield TV and would like to do the same with 4k Blu-Ray. The problem with the Shield TV is that it only has a single HDMI output and my receiver doesn't do 4k pass through so I'm looking for a player with two HDMI outputs, one for video, one for sound.
       
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      A lot of them do, particularly the early Samsung and Panasonic ones. My K8500 does, but this is old hat now. Not sure what the options are if you want Dolby Vision & 2 HDMI out...
       
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      Apart from the cheap ones I have never come across a UHD player that didn’t have 2 outputs, (The same applied to standard Blu-ray players as well) but if you are worried, just have a look on the back of the player. (Manufactures websites usually show the back as well)

      Bill
       
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      yeah I've seen the ones that have dual HDMi outputs. I was wondering which ones would play 4k Blu Ray rips on top of the dual HDMI. I know the Sony players are a bit hit and miss with playing rips so wanted to know if there was one that played them well.
       
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      There was, but you've missed it unless you pick up a 2nd hand Oppo 203 or trawl around to find the few of them left in stores as open box or demo units. Otherwise there is this at £799 OPPO UDP-203 MR
       
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