Should horses be allowed on public roads poll

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  1. overkill

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    I have no real beef with horses on roads - I just like winding nick up!:D No, but seriously, on country lanes they can be a nightmare as they block traffic for miles, like ****** tractors!:mad: On the 'Guildford to Dorking run' they can add 25 minutes onto a journey. It's all very well being 'considerate' but since when have bosses given a stuff about that when you're late?
     
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    I didn't realise that you were in my neck of the woods.
     
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    But unlike Tractors you can overtake them.
     
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    their was something quintessentialy british about seeing a horse on our roads ...long summer days etc etc .but in reality with more and more cars on our roads it's not a safe place for horse or rider.
    keep them in the fields. :)
     
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    But spot on.

    ...or alternatively price any car users who are unable to share the public highways off the roads.
     
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    Effectively then blaming others for your bad time keeping? :thumbsdow If you left 25mins earlier it wouldn't be a problem!
     
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    how?
     
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    Why should I leave 25 minutes earlier (meaning even less sleep) just so people can have an early morning trot?!:mad: What sort of patronizing tot is that? :rolleyes:

    I was getting up at 6.30 as it was!

    Hi MEP. Yeah, lived the other side of the Hogsback (Ash Vale) for five years, then moved to Guildford before moving up t'North.
     
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    By that logic, since I pay vat on my ciggies, I can just expect to get NHS treatment without my stamp and not bother with the council taxes either.
    Fundamentally, what is the justification and reason for someone with a car to pay road tax ?
    Rememeber to include reasons that don't include environmental issues that weren't remotely considered for many years while people still had to pay it.

    ..... when you have managed that, swap the car for a horse or cyclist and pretty much all the same arguements stand up the same ... just to different degrees.
    Cyclists and horses cause damage and accidents - and in terms of an individual car taken in isolation, a car in itself does not cause that much damage or polution. It is the millions of cars together that do.
     
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    with you on that one mate :smashin:
     
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    err.... so did you vote? :D
     
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    yes .... and I think I probably messed it up like some of the others .... but I can't be sure :D
     
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    i've got to ask, for or against?
     
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    Against them on the road with the proviso of having special training / licenses and disignated routes. ie aloted roads and areas that can be used by trained and licenses riders during particular times / days for access to bridaleways.

    ... I am totally against any old numpty being able to buy a horse and go anywhere at any time ( there are ofc some current restrictions already )
     
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    Because our public roads are PUBLIC and not your personnel property. This means you have to share them with everyone else and everyone is allowed to use them. :lesson: If your not getting enough sleep may I suggest you complete a time management course or get a new job.
     
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    What is this? Beyond an attempt to justify a non argument.

    Yes, road are public. However, that doesn't mean everyone has the right to use them equally. Try riding a bike down a motorway and see what happens to you. There are areas and times when common sense should dictate you don't ride. I have no wish to see a horse injured anymore than I want to be late for work.

    Suggesting 'time management courses' or 'get a new job' is just beyond belief in the arrogance stakes. Why should I have to just to enable someone to go horsey riding!? My life was hectic enough at that time without bloody daft comments like that. :rolleyes:
     
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    You would get arrested because it is against the law.

    However riding a horse down a country lane, residential street, town high stree, or even quite a busy single lane road is not against the law.
     
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    Erm, that wasn't the point. What is, is that it's not sensible, or safe, to ride a bike down a motorway, so, they are banned. It's equally not sensible to ride horses down busy, narrow roads, in rush hour!

    Is a ban or restrictions then what they want? Because I remember it being debated at the time in that area.

    A little common sense, not emotional arguments about how unfair on horse riders to ask them to excercise a little of it, is all people are asking for. Or is that too much to ask.............?;)
     
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    I don't think it is sensible to ride a horse down a busy narrow road in rush hour.

    But hour often does that happen??!

    People who ride horses on the road do so almost exclusively during the day (ie. not morning or evening - rush hour), or at weekends.

    A little common sense does indeed dictate that you wouldn't ride a horses in such conditions.

    I mean bloody hell, half the people on here seem to be in such a rush that they can't bare adding 15-20 seconds to their journey to slow down to pass a horse!!

    :rolleyes:
     
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    I think the question should really be 'should horse riders be allowed on public roads' as to all intents and purposes they are 'responsible' for the 'dumb creatures'.....:lesson:
     
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    It used to happen quite often, which is why we used to get vexed! If it wasn't some sado in a tractor it was flippin horses! Agggggggghhhhhhh! :suicide:

    I agree with the last comment though. Just having to slow down to pass a horse is no big deal for goodness sake!
     
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    :rotfl: How is it arrogant - you seem to have a problem getting to work ontime and I am suggesting ways you can correct this without the need to limit other people's rights. In this day and age it is very easy to turn around and blame others or make excuses but ultimately a biut of planning and forethought can make the whole thing a non-issue. I commute 1000 miles every week and I still manage to get to where I need to be ontime. Even though my journey could be alot quicker if a variety of road users were banned I do not want this because I accept I am not the only human being in the country!
     
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    I didn't have any problem getting to work on time - when there wasn't an obstruction. If you knew anything about the route you wouldn't be talking such utter, ill informed, and yes, arrogant nonsense. There is only one main route between the towns I was travelling to and from. You had NO choice but to use it. To use the train meant leaving at some ludicrous hour of the morning and taking a torturous and expensive route, there was no bus. To deviate from the main route, itself narrow in places and winding, meant using 'b' roads that took anything up to 45 minutes extra.

    Please explain the options I had - as you are so much cleverer than I at getting to places? Excuses my ****.:cool:

    Again, why should I have had to change my job (and the thousands of others that used that route) or get up before the flaming cockrel, just to keep four or five horse riders happy? As an aside there were numerous back roads they could have used but chose not to. I mean why should they eh? They had options we didn't.

    Why couldn't they have used some common sense? Something people are quick to leap on the chavs for not using, but when it comes to the horse rider, hey, that's fine.......... :rolleyes:

    I mean let's keep it sensible here................:rolleyes:
     
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    To leave home earlier!

    ...because they have as much right as you to use the public highway.
     
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    no they don't..please tell me exactly what right you think they to be on our roads!
     
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    OMG!!!!!!

    What a dumb thing to say!

    They have exactly the same right as a motorist to use the public highway! Read the highway code!

    Or are you just trolling???!
     
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    yeh not the best retort..this is my last post on this subject ...50/50 says it all
     
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    Well it wasn't the best comment to make in the first place!

    And 50/50 hardly proves your point does it?!

    Besides its 51/50 in favour of horses being on the road now....
     

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