hi all well the best price for these are pricejapan. the tosh, sharps, marantz are on my list, but which one throws the shortest distance and do any of them come with short throw addon lenses? before these it was going to be the sony vpl-vw12ht but as its the same price or cheaper (2566 pounds excl vat in Pricejapan to under 3000 pounds with vat in the uk) did PJ know that sony have have slash the price off this projector??????it should be now under 2000 to 1500 pounds excl vat over there! cheers!!