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Short throw PJ

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by family man, Jun 3, 2004.

  1. family man

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    Hi all,

    Been thinking about getting back in the fine old world of PJ's.

    Just wondered if anyone can give me advice on which projectors have a decent and large picture at about 10ft or so throw disatnce.

    Looking for about a 7ft wide picture and I dont want to spend the earth but still want as decent a picture as possible. Needs to be about this size to justify having a PJ and my 50" plasma.

    Any advice is greatly appreciated!!

    Cheers!
     
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    Def the Sanyo Z2 and Panny AE500 have a short throw, as do the earlier Sanyo Z1, any Panny AE100, 200 & 300. Use projectorcentral.com they have calculator's to work out the ranges of sizes.

    Hope this helps

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    Was hoping to get something a little better tbh (used to have an AE300 and am looking to move onward and upwards!!)

    Also the throw calculator is very helpful but short of going through every PJ it is difficult to say what has a short throw.
     
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    You need to use the "Find Projectors" function. To narrow it down stick max brightness to 1500 and you get a decent sized page of results. The list doesn't include the most recent projectors (and does include a lot of commercial projectors not best suited to home cinema) but does suggest NEC HT1100, BenQ8700, Yamaha DPX1000.

    Bear in mind that throw distances are always for guidance only. There is usually a plus or minus 5% error factor and projector central doesn't always get the right figures from the manufacturers...
     
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    just got the z2 from www.ivojo.co.uk!
    still the best budjet pj.
    to get good pq you will need to spend £ on good component cable and may-be a pal progressive scan dvd player?
    look at all these on ukpricerunner.com

    good hunting !!
     
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    I have all of those things!!

    Just looking for the PJ now. Was thinking of going down the DLP route so any more suggestions...........................
     
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    what kinda of money u thinking of?
     
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    Not sure really.

    I guess £2k max for a new one and maybe £1.5K max for a second hand one.
     
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    The Sharp Z91 is a short throw DLP (£1500 ish) as is the better but more expensive Z201 (the 91 is a 4.3 panel, the 201 a 16.9). I have a Z91 which I found alot better than the AE300, but don't know anyone with a Z201.
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    7ft wide image from 10ft lens to screen is going to be a throw of 1.4-1.45 ish thats short, Barco do lens that short for cineversum 70 i think you are going to need 12ft 4" for a 7ft image off a cheaper LCD unit. with a £2K max budget a unit with sort of throw is going to be hard to find.
     
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    I think you are probably right which makes the whole thing seem less likely/justifiable.

    What I am thinking about doing is changing the room slightly so that the PJ screen is on the other (wall room is about 11ft x 19ft). I guess putting it at the end of the 19ft wall would open up my options somewhat!!
     
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    Z2 will just throw that distance-size. cant think of an DLP units that fit the bill unless you go for bigger budget around £5k (which TBH i think you should as you have a 50"plasma anyway) or have an LCD.
     
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    to be honest I think I might go for an 8ft screen. Seems to me that if I'm going for it I might as well GO for it!!

    Having a look on the throw calculator about 13-15 ft seems to be about right on a lot of DLP's for an 8ft picture.

    Would a DLP be OK projecting a stable image that big from that distance?
     
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    Yeah should be fine need to mount unit properly at the right height for the screen etc going to 8ft i would suggest you consider the Digital Projection Iviosn available from progressive AV (forum Sponsor) for a silly £4999also the Infocus Screenplay 5700 (consider using an Iscan HD with that. And Ivision if funds allow.
    PS is your 8ft Diag or Width? I am using Width.
     
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    Yea it is width.

    Only looking to spend between 1-2K tbh so was thinking of maybe the H30 or H56 (new or second hand)
     
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    H56 IMPO will struggle at 8ft wide unless you are along way away. also are you bothered at all by rainbows? or any of your family?
     
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    Not as far as I know and the missus can always go outside!!

    Would LCD cope with a picture that size?
     
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    Any sub £2k PJ IMPO will struggle to fill a screen 8 feet wide with a good image. The Marantz 12S3 looks excellent on an 8 foot screen, but at £8K+ it is over budget. Ivision HD looks good on 7-8ft screen too. personally i would shop around for an Ex demo Screenplay 5700 perhaps. You should try and demo as many as possible and see what sort of performance you get and what the cost is.
     
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    Thanks for all your help!!
     
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    JVC M15 is 1.5 throw with 1500 lumens. S/Hand about your budget
     
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    The Toshiba MT500 is available for well under 2k now and would do a very nice 6-7ft image. One of my faves for the money. Take heed to Hornydragons advice on screen size too, you may find a >2k projector will struggle to perform at 8ft as well as it can at 6-7ft and it is easy to get carried away before realising that an 8ft image just isn't that comfortable to watch in quite a few rooms!
     
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    Depending on room available, a wide angle adapter (Isco ?) might help
     
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    i have a sharp zx91 ,gives a 70 inch image from 2.5 metres.great p/j and can be found quite cheap if you hunt around.
     
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    Well I have had a look at a H56 and a sim2 domino 20 this weekend (my local store are ver limited with choice!!).

    I really liked them both actually but the guy in the shop said that the H56 would really struggle to fill a 7-8ft screen but the Sim2 was made for that kind of thing??

    Sound likely or just salesman 'spin' to get me to spend more??
     
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    I think so i wouldnt go sim unless you have a long room as they are long throw units!
    look at infocus 5700 which can be had for £2700 brand new or i guess £2k ex demo.
    Also consider NEC ht1000 i think it is.



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