SHELL to add EV chargers at filling stations

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    Could see this working on larger forecourt locations that have a coffee shop or similar attached for somewhere to chill while your car is charging. However if pricing is like ecotricity current model (though that could be changing) then its going to be a hard sell.
     
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    Very encouraging news. Will entice otherwise non customers into their forecourt shops. They just need to serve hot food and beverages to make more money.
    Agree the cost of the energy needs to be right. @True Romance what have you heard about ecotricity rates?
     
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    There was a guy on one of the ev forums who claims that ecotricity are introducing a new pay scale, per kw instead of 30min blocks. This has been refuted by ecotricity though.
     
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    it would make a lot of sense. I have now done three EH charges. and the first test one where the car was near 50% charge ended up costing about 60p per kWh...the last two where i got more charge in the period were 30p per kWh which is more in line with what their competitors charge but knowing that my overnight rate is going to be going to 5p per kWh even that 30p makes me squirm!..
     
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    On the local news it was announced that this Basingstoke company InstaVolt | Back on the road in 30 minutes are teaming up with a US company to bring up to 400kW chargers to the UK. They mentioned that some towns only have a single charging point and were shown marking up Garage forecourts. Looks promising.
     
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    Here's hoping that they look over to the Yorkshire East coast...30min charging - excellent!
    Things are seemingly getting slowly better all over the country...it can only be a good thing :smashin:
     
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    Already present at LIDL Scarborough.
     
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    Update Multi-million pound contract to install 3000 chargepoints by 2021 on forecourts of many suppliers
     
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    Sounds good but actual charging costs are going to be key.
     
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    I don't mind paying so long as it's a rapid charger, but I'd wish they would install a couple of charge stations instead of the odd one. There's only one in the town I live in, (not rapid as far as I know) and it's supposed to be a holiday resort!

    Anyway, I've not got into all this yet until next week :cool:
     
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    We don't mind paying but only if it's cheaper than petrol/diesel.
     
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    ...much cheaper :)
     
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    You got Yorkshire blood running through you? :D
     
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    Possibly :) More likely it's because if it's going to cost almost as much as in petrol we'll probably just use the petrol car. On the other hand, if the electric car is more comfortable on long journeys, perhaps the sacrifice of needing a charging break will turn out to be more attractive. Time will tell. Can't wait until next week :thumbsup:
     
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    Do enjoy driving the Mrs Leaf such a relaxed and easy drive. If it was only slightly cheaper per mile to charge compared to an ICE car we'd be ok with it and possibly use fast chargers more. Currently though its more expensive to charge than fuel :confused:
     
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    Fuel costs are actually a small percentage of car total ownership costs, deprecation is the real killer which many people don't think about.

    I admit the cheap refueling of EVs did attract me at first but what's convinced us to spend £60k+ on a Tesla is most certainly not cheap refueling.

    Nicer things in life nearly always cost more money, but actually in life so many times the product/services you pay extra for doesn't seem worth it....EVs are the exception to this rule, my only regret is not trying one earlier, and we are now in the process of working out how to ditch my wifes combustion car so that we can have a 100% EV drive train. Yes we could have got all kinds of very nice petrol cars for the price of the Tesla, but I would make the same purchase decision again without any hesitation. There isn't a single combustion car on this planet that I would swap our EVs with.
     
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    If the cost per mile of electricity paid for on a forecourt is close to the price for Carbon fuel, I would pay it. After all you probably have the chance to charge at home at 12-14p per kw. Topping up at rates close to or even a bit above at commercial outlets is still a good deal.
     
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    Another thought (probably tediously obvious to everyone here):

    Your typical shell garage has a honking big flat roof on it. You can probably get a 10kw system on those roofs, maybe a bit more. The station will self consume some of this (which will probably pay for the install in a few years). But the Pv could also feed batteries that feed the electron pumps / charging stations (as well as self consumption after dark).

    That's one hell of a virtuous circle. Shell, it any other forecourt operator, could get serious economies of scale and drive down the cost per kw installed way below that achievable domestic installs. Nice business model.
     

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