Sharp LC-37GE1E 1920x 1080 panel - anything similar around for May HD launch?

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  1. JohnKen

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    The LC-37GE1E LCD is due for Launch in "May" - and I've been planning to wait for it before buying my LCD for Sky HD install.

    With the launch of Sky HD I was wondering if anyone else is waiting for a 37" with "full HD"?

    The spec follows with a link to the PDF - and as far as I can glean this set is the only imminent 37" 1080 panel in the UK market that might be around by May in time for Sky HD.

    What do folk think of Sharp? - my local dealer say that Loewe use the Sharp panels and make European Sharp models on their production line in Germany - so should be good. Only big question is the price.

    And do readers think its worth paying the extra for a "full HD" LCD at this size?

    Details at the end of this post are (for the UK model) given in this advance brief at Mentor Distribution: http://www.mentor-distribution.com/sharp/pdf/LC-37GE1E.pdf

    Similar details are available on this Danish Site:
    http://www.prad.de/en/tvguide/screen1242.html

    This suggests a price of EURO 2300 or say £1600 - very competitive if true! - NB [See later posts - now listed on some UK web sites from just under £1800 to low £2000's]

    The 8th March Press Release from Sharp Europe - http://www.sharp.de/presse/presse.php says in German: "Sharp präsentiert auf der CeBIT 2006 mit dem AQUOS LC-37GE1E sein neues -Highlight mit der HDTV-Auflösung von 1.920 mal 1.080 Bildpunkten. Mit neuer Vier-Wellenlängen-Hintergrundbeleuchtung, einer extrem schnellen Pixel-Reaktionszeit von sechs Millisekunden, einem um 50 Prozent erhöhten Kontrastverhältnis und einem ganzen Paket an neuen Bildverbesserungs-Technologien setzt Sharp ganz neue Maßstäbe in Sachen Bildqualität." which rough translated means:

    "Sharp presented at the CeBIT 2006 its new Full-HD LCD-TV highlighting an HDTV resolution of 1.920 times 1,080 pixels - the AQUOS LC-37GE1E. With a new four-wavelength backlight, an extremely fast pixel response time of six milliseconds, and around 50 per cent increase in contast, and a whole package at new picture improvement technologies, Sharp is offering a completely new yardstick in image quality." (Others may do better with the German).

    new product preview
    AVA I L A B L E - M AY 2 0 0 6
    ** UK only

    37" WIDE LCD COLOUR TELEVISION
    ‘HD Ready' Wide LCD TV with Full HD Panel
    • Full-spec HD (1920 x 1080) LCD Panel
    • 4 Wavelength Back Light
    • Built-in Freeview Digital Terrestrial DVB-T Tuner
    – Two ‘HDMI' Terminals
    - 2 Scart [pity not 3]
    - Component / PC In
    – Advanced Super View and Black TFT LCD Panel
    – High Brightness 450cd⁄m2, High Contrast 1200:1
    – Wide Viewing Angle H: 176°, V: 176°
    – High Quality Picture Circuit ‘truD' (Smooth Video Image Playback)
    – Detachable Speaker⁄Metal Speaker Net
    – Advanced OPC (Optical Picture Control)
    – 60,000 hours Long Life Back Light

    S p e c i f i c a t i o n s

    LCD Panel 37" Wide (1920 x 1080), Advanced Super View & Black TFT LCD
    Brightness 450cd⁄m2
    Back Light Life 60,000 hours
    Viewing Angle H: 176°, V: 176°
    Audio Output 15W + 15W
    Stereo System NICAM⁄A2
    Terminals SCART x 2, AV⁄S-Video In, Audio Out, HDMI In x 2, CI Slot PC In
    (Compatible with Component In), Headphones
    Power Source AC 220V–240V, 50Hz
    Power Consumption UNDERSTUDY
    Dimensions (W x H x D) UNDERSTUDY
    Weight UNDERSTUDY
    Product appearance maybe subject to change without prior notice

    NEW: Link added here to Brochure for Sharp USA 2006 range as it covers the US equivalent model - the LC-37D90U - on page 5: http://www.sharpusa.com/files/tel_dow_AQUOS_Full_Line_0206.pdf However - beware - the input / output described is clearly not the same as the European model.

    :smashin:
     
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    Are the new (BIG SCREEN) Toshiba's not the same res also?
     
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    But does it accept 1080P? I saw both the 45" and 65"(?) pannels that Sharp had on display at the Bristol show and neither of these could accept 1080P. The Sharp reps said there would be exciting stuff coming out soon but couldn't give any details. I guess this must be it.
     
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    I could be wrong - but Sky are not doing there HD is 1080p output at all at launch are they? It was stated 720p and 1080i anyway. So what advantage is there right now apart from Bluray and HD-DVD
     
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    I realise that 1080p will not be broadcast - but will be needed to get the best from Blue Ray or HD-DVD. However - the 1080i standard gives 1920 horizontal resolution - and will be significantly better 3:2 ratio than the 1280 horizontal resolution of the 720p standard - if I've understood correctly. I know the interlacing reduces the effective pixel count to roughly the same as 720p. But I would have thought that the horizontal resolution would be significantly better on a 1920 x 1080 panel.

    Thus I'm assuming the gradual introduction of 1920 x 1080 LCD's by the likes of Sharp, Toshiba et al, even down to 37" size has worthwhile advantages. I realise though - that you probably need to sit really close to see these effects.:)
     
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    I agree. Personally I'm also concerned about future-proofing my purchase as much as possible. I don't see the point in spending £2000+ on an HD Ready LCD panel and not looking for the best display resolutions possible. I'd rather pay an extra few hundred quid now than have to think about changing the screen in another 12-18 months time when HD-DVD and Blueray become mass market products with 1080p support.
     
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    May, hmmmmmmmmmm. Didn't think they would be out so soon. Where's the queue, and who do I have to sleep with to get to the top of it?
     
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    There are more details slowly emerging from Europe - but no firm details of whether UK dealers are getting news of actual May release and availability. Any dealers in the know on this would be welcome to post! At least two potential buyers on this site.

    Still a few questions on the full spec - its a bit thin on Scarts and component. One site suggests it may have a card reader.

    We wait with bated breath!
    :lease:
     
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    The Philips 37PF9830 is a 1920X1080 panel and according to my service menu it's a 'Sharp Full HD panel'
    These have been out for some time now.
     
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    That sounds like a great price if it's true.

    Anyone know if the backlight intensity will be adjustable?
     
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    Hi - I first came across it from a search on Google about CeBit - when it picked up publicity from Endgadget that it was the only Sharp model being highlighted on Sharp's stand: http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/sharp-introduces-37-inch-lcd-1080-hdtv/

    I subsequntly searched by the model number and that took me via two steps to the PDF of the (I think) major UK Sharp distributer (Mentor) as listed in my post at the top of this thread - repeated here: http://www.mentor-distribution.com/sharp/. Click though and you come to their complete list of LCD's available now - all with data sheets in PDF format. The information "Available May" is in the top right of the data sheet.:)

    I'm sure readers of our threads will be interested in the specs for the other upcoming models.

    But what has really captured my interest is that it is the only true HD at 37" [bar the older Philips] - as the Tosh's don't go down to a 37 in the WLT66 range.
     
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    Just had a look at the specs and am I right that this model has no component input ? It only has a pc input that is Component compatible. If this is the case I would probably have to use a coverter to get my xbox 360 to work, well thats rubbish. The picture would certainly suffer for not having a direct component connection, what are they thinking not including a component input :(
     
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    Why do you need a converter? Won't the (probably) supplied component to VGA cable work?
     
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    Perhaps you will receive a component to vga converter but the problem remains that you will no doubt loose picture quality in the conversion.
     
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    This one is on my short list, been following the long thread on the US release over at AVS for some time.
     
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    I would think the VGA port doubles as a component port via an adaptor and therefore no conversion is required. Otherwise every monitor could be advertised as having component via VGA, I could be wrong though.

    Didn't some of the Toshiba sets do this?
     
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    New World Records, 1080p LCD Sharp Aquos LC-37GE1E

    The following is an automatic translation of the Japanese original - which confirms 1080p and suitability for gaming etc.

    "Sharp, the liquid crystal kingdom [leader?] remains, of course, will not miss the display of their products so CeBIT where Sharp brought us this section of the 37-inch 1080p Gaoqing television. We all know that Sharp is the Gao Qing, 45-inch color TV, then, products received many awards in the international arena, this Aquos LC-37GE1E contrast gradient to 1200:1, the picture resolution of 1920x1080, perfect support 1080p top Gaoqing resolution, and HDMI digital interface such are fully equipped. Originally, the smallest of the world record was Fujitsu/ Hitachi 42-inch slab section maintained, but now this record to be heard by renewable, but it is now also on sale at the time and no formal price."

    Useful confirmation.
     
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    1080p confirmation?? could it be?? I sure hope it's true :thumbsup:

    Had kinda settled for a Tosh 37 inch and now I read this... Oh choices choices...
     
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    I am too waiting for this set.

    Just to be pedantic but I posted a thread on this TV albeit the LC-37GE2(Japanese verion) a few months ago.

    See orginal press release:
    http://sharp-world.com/corporate/news/050920_3.html

    The european version doesnt have all the sexy connections though.

    This panel is already out in the states but under a different guise.

    Money is ready and waiting!!
     
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    You will not lose picture quality in the conversion because it's not a signal format conversion - all the converter is a piece of plastic (and metal?) that lets the signals from the Component cables be input into the VGA port.

    The VGA port on this TV will be designed to accept RGB as well as Y/Pb/Pr signals - so no expensive transcoding is needed. It sounds like a space-saving move on Sharp's part.

    Edit: ccparkhill has already said it
     
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    Just why do they deside to remove connections for the European market?

    We 2nd class citizens ?
     
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    3rd Class, Asia, America then Europe

    And more to the point.. why are we the last to get the poorer scaled down versions!!:thumbsdow

    I have heard that Sharp are building a new LCD panel plant in Spain so that we dont have to wait for the slow boat from China!

    But of course by the time its built we will probably want SED TV's..

    I have just read that the american version can do 1:1 pixel mapping over dvi hope that true for the Euro version.
     
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    If this unit can do all the things the american unit can do than this is the only real contender for me before the World Cup.


    1080p over HDMI and DVI - CHECK!
    1:1 Pixel mapping over DVI - CHECK!
    Available before 9th June - CHECK! (hopefully :))

    The only real downside is the lack of a seperate component input.

    Am I correct in understanding that if I use the PC port, I simply don't have ANY component inputs at all? that would really suck.
     
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    Assuming you have a graphics card that has dvi out you will have at lease one component i guess?!?
     
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    poeple must have some crapola card that hasn't got DVI output, last 4 card's i bought had a minimum of 1

    think this is the set for me unless it has a buzz problem and i seem to buy everyone.
     
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    I agree... thing is how many people have graphics cards that output 1920 x 1080 out of the box. The only one that I know of is the ATI1900 with a fan that buzzes like you wont beleive!!:D
     
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    Yes. yes, yes. Look this is all very interesting about your graphics cards and all that. but some of us would just like to watch tv. So does anybody have an idea as to when this set will become available and who will have it 1st?
     

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