Shaddowing from lens

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  1. gmac190

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    I have just bought a brand spanking new 18-200mm VR lens from Nikon which is fantastic. I have a D40 body.

    I have noticed though that on some shots more often than not from 18mm range that the built in flash casts a shadow over the lens and this shows on the photo.

    I am assuming I will have to buy a separate flash to combat this. If this is so
    what type of flash would be best suited for normal day to day indoor/outdoor shots.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    Thanks
     
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    Are you using a lens hood ?

    If you are you will need to remove it for "on camera" flash.
     
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    No the lens hood isn't on, it makes it worse as you could expect.
     
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    Easy - Nikon SB600 (about £130 if you shop around)

    As Android says though, taking the lens hood off may cure it.

    Edit - strike that about the lens hood!
     
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    Cool - Does the flash unit recharge quickly so that a few shots can be taken quickly. I've never had a flash gun so am new to this side of things. I suppose the batteries in the unit would make a difference?

    I've only used a flash gun (an old one at that) once and indoor shots were way over exposed. Will the flash gun adjust and give out the appropriate amount of flash or am I being a complete newbie to this?
     
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    The modern flashguns are just great, if you're using your inbuilt flash a lot, you'll find a bounce flash will vastly improve your photograhy. They would normally recharge quickly enough to get a few shots off in a row, although it may mean you need to put it on a particular setting.
     
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    I have the SB600 and cannot find a bad word to say about it, actually I wish I’d bought one earlier!
     
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    Do you have the flashgun on the camera all the time? I presume you can switch the flash off without having to remove it from the body?

    I'm a little worried that the sb 600 might be a little advanced for me (can a flash be advanced?!?!) Any thoughts on the SB400
     
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    I have to 18-200 vr on a d80, and to be honest I have never noticed the shadow to which you refer to? It suffers from appalling lens creep and distortion at 18mm, but no shadow.

    In relation to the SB600/800, great kit, get one!

    Mike
     
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    I've had this happen on my rig. Ususally it's because you are using a physically long lens at the minimum focal length and are close to you subject whilst using the pop-up flash. The flash casts a shadow from the lens.

    External flash is the only answer if the above analysis is correct.
     
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    It's generally off unless I need to use it, but yes you can switch it off anyway if you want to leave it on and not use it.

    The SB600 is easy to use but there's also allot of room to experiment with, I've found if using straight on it's easy but once you bounce the light things can get a bit more tricky. It comes with a great manual though plus a little booklet which shows you some sample shots and techniques!

    The main reason I bought one was for indoor shots of my kid’s, I original bought the 50mm 1.8 for this but in hindsight I should have got the flash first, it does open up a completely new avenue of photography!
     
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    Cheers mate but as far as appauling lens creep goes I ain't seen that yet and certainly no distortion at 18mm. Maybe the D80 is a bigger body than the D40 so it'll raise the flash higher?
     
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    I get a little lens creep. It's possible that it loosens up over time. Btw, I notice Ken Rockwell rather likes the teeny little SB400, so if you want a very simple flash, that wouldn't be a bad idea.

    To answer one of your earlier questions, Nikon flash guns are fully integrated into your camera's metering system, so the camera normally sets the flash output level for you

    The only thing to be aware of is that the D40 can't act as a wireless flash commander, and the SB400 can't act as a wireless slave. Only the SB800 can act as a commander, and the SB600 or SB800 can be wireless slaves. This means that if you upgrade at some point to a D80, which has a wireless speedlight commander built it, if you have an SB600, you can hold that in your hand or on a tripod an control it wirelessly. The SB400 can't do that. Incidentally, to add a commander mode to the D40 would take an SB800 or SU800 commander (and frankly you might as well upgrade the whole camera to a D80!)
     
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    Thanks Yandros

    I think at the moment the SB400 is going to be more my cup of tea to be honest. As I said earlier I'm new to this game of SLR's and although I'm keen to gain experience I think I am a LONG way off the D80 and the wireless flash guns etc.

    Appreciate all the advice though.
     
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    Can this thread be closed.

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