Separate forum for CRTs?

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by samwiley, Sep 19, 2001.

  1. samwiley

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    I'm starting to get a bit fed up with bickering between the two distinct projector camps.

    It hardly seems to be possible to start ANY thread that doesn't get hijacked by the CRT vs. LCD/DLP quality issue and quite frankly I'm getting p***ed off at being told that unless I can afford to build an extension, install airline seats, fork out £5K (min) on a suitcase sized projector and change the name of my house to 'The Ritzy', then I simply shouldn't bother!!

    Listen, I know the shortcomings of my entry level LDC projector and of course, given the choice/money/space, I'd opt for a better quality projector. But in the mean time I can enjoy the benefits of home cinema, while learning more about it, passing on my experiences to those people in the same league (albeit 2nd division!) as me.

    As time and finances allow, I have no doubt that I will be upgrading, and who knows maybe, if I move, it might just be to a CRT, but meanwhile how about the more discerning, superior and obviously wealthier CRT owners keep their sarcastic, snobby remarks to themselves (or at least their own forum – they obviously prefer not to mix with the likes of us!)

    Sam
     
  2. Stuart Wright

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    Some of that is my fault. I apologise. You have a good point.
     
  3. Gordon @ Convergent AV

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    Nic,

    Can I just comment that I deliberately chose from FIXED panels only. My real answers would be different.

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  4. Noel

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    I agree with Sam. Not necessarily that there should be a separate CRT forum, but certainly that the belittling comments should stop. After someone's saved up a couple of grand of their hard-earned and is happy with their purchase, the last thing they want to hear is that someone could not even sit and watch their new pride and joy.

    Cheers,

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    Couldnt have put it better myself Noel
     
  6. GarryF

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    Firstly I'm a CRT owner so I guess that makes me a bit biased.

    I under stand some of what you are saying Sam but I had a look down the last 20-30 posts and couldn't see any LCD/DLP threads that have been hijacked, the only post that seems to have stirred up emotions is what's the best projector for the money one.

    As for CRT owners being wealthier I don't understand why someone who can get a 7" CRT with 2000-3000 hours on it, chuck on a iscan and have a pretty good solution for sub £2000 would be considered wealthier than someone going for a LCD of similar value.

    Everyone who is buying a projector has to decide their priorities, if picture quality is top then CRT will win in every price bracket for me as I would happily buy second hand again. For other people their size, reliability, setup issues, ambient light, lack of portability etc etc make them a non starter.

    I expect most of the CRT owners on the forum appreciate the reasons why so many people go for LCD, don't be put off by the rude few. Personally I can't wait until there's a shoebox sized unit that can match CRT. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

    I'd also say no to another forum, how else will all us dumb CRT owners find out when our big boxes are obsolete <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
     
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    "wealthier CRT owners" LOL

    i have no money at all, and i mean that

    i don't have a large room . most if not all the fixt panel pjs just have to long a throw . once it is ceiling mounted it takes up no room at all. with an lcd throw i would have ended up with a screen size not worth bothering with

    when it comes to light . i hate watching films in a light room anyway . it is just not the same without a pitch black room. that is what curtains and blinds are for

    i went for crt becouse inmop it is simply. i had the choice of getting a cheep lcd unit new or go for a second hand crt

    i did not hesitate for a min. i spent everything i had , maxed out my credit card and it will be well over a year till i have payed for it . in my op it was well worth it though

    conected to my pc it produces the best image for miles around. if i had done anything else i just would not have been happy at all

    as for the new crt forum question . if you have ever been over to the avs forum you would know . just as much arguing gos on with a seperate forum anyway
     
  8. Nic Rhodes

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  10. Nic Rhodes

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  11. Jeff

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    Nick,

    How about twin CRTs, stacked! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

    Jeff
     
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    When is your wife due?

    I know nothing about PJ's so I can't comment...but if you need any help with your double birth let me know, I'm your man! and believe me you'll need help!

    Hope your install goes well!

    What PJ are you going for?
     
  13. Jeff

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    It is only a bit of friendly banter most of the time, forums like this are very useful for finding out about things but you learn to take most of what is said with a pinch of salt. I have been researching projectors for the last six months with a view to get one probably by the end of the year. I think that it is important to understand how the various projector technologies work and what the pros and cons are. In many ways CRT is the cheapest route and most of the people here who advocate its merits so strongly have second hand units that were bought for £3000 or less. Digital projectors have come a long way and we are getting to the point where the perceived boundaries of each technology no longer hold true. At a recent show Seleco showed the new HT300 DLP projector against their top of the range 8"CRT projector and by all accounts the differences were minimal. If you already have a projector that you are happy with, fine, enjoy it and don't worry about what others say, even if you went for the best there is always something better round the corner. If you are looking to get a new projector it is often some of the more heated threads that yield the best information, an example of this is the Uncle Eric's Anthea Turner thread.

    No separate CRT forum please.

    Jeff
     
  14. Nic Rhodes

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    I'm not sure I entirely agree with this but I see what you are trying to say and have some sympathy with your view point.

    I believe Spectre did try and separate the forum some time ago, but very little went to the non CRT side from memory. It didn't work and I would prefer for it all to stay in one location. AVS have it separated and I miss loads of stuff.

    When people decide to go the projector route they have to decide which technology they want to use. Everyone has to go through this. In my case, Gordon helped out with a LCD, DLP, CRT demo. I expect most people aren't so lucky and therefore need the pros and cons from this forum. I was originally going for LCD but the wife saw I really wanted CRT so we struck a deal, she's got twins coming and I've got a CRT coming!

    This should not be a DLP / LCD vs CRT battle but a statement of facts. Everyone can then make up their own minds what is the best compromise for them. We need opinions from everyone on this even if we don't always agree with them.

    You sight the constant battle of of DLP / LCD owners being told the picture quality isn't in the same league as CRT. I expect there are a similar bunch of CRT people fed up being told that set up is difficult, non perfect geometry, huge size, low light levels etc etc. It works both ways. We should keep it to facts where ever possible.

    I really don't think people are saying if it ain't CRT don't bother. It is not what I understand from the recent posts.

    Roland was pro CRT. I went for LCD and CRT, Gordon went for LCD and DLP and Chris for LCD, DLP and CRT. I actually think that is a well balanced answer. The question after all was What's the best at each price bracket?

    Perhaps Spectre hinted at it BEST with

     
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  16. Nic Rhodes

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    Twins are due basically due between Christmas and new year, the same time I move house! I get my cinema room then. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

    Haven't you all wondered why I am doing so much Home Cinema stuff now!

    Jeff, you are correct, I missed an oportunity, I should have asked for stacked CRTs. Gordon do you have another 9PG? <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">
     
  17. Nic Rhodes

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  18. Stuart Wright

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    Nic,<br />if you're experiences are anything like mine, forget about using your home cinema for the first 6 months after your babies arrive. Even if you are up for watching a movie, and sound doesn't travel through the house and wake them up, you're missus will be far too tired to watch a movie.<br />And if by some miracle you both do get round to sitting down for a movie together, the volume has to be way down because the babies will have to be in there with you.<br />Forget getting baby sitters in while you watch a movie. For the golden times when your babies are being looked after, your partner will want to sleep or tidy up or shop.<br />The time when the homce cinema will really come into it's own will be around autumn 2003 when your kids are going to enjoy tellytubbies or tweenies etc on the big screen.
     
  19. Noel

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    Bugger. My wife is currently 7 days overdue and I'm still kidding myself that I'll get to play with my toys....
     
  20. Nic Rhodes

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    Stuart / Noel

    Looks like I am taking a sabatical then

    <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

    The new house is LARGE. My home cinema will be at one end and the bedroom at the other in a house design that consists if several different sections. I remain hopeful that I can watch the odd film but I expect everyone else is right, 2003!

    see you all then
     

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