Sennheiser MX500 - disapointed

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  1. Falp

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    Sennheiser MX500 - disapointed

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    Bought a pair of MX 500 yesterday for my iPOD Shuffle...

    Disapointed...

    Bass... no progress :mad:
    Treble... much more revealling and transparent but... also revelling the iPOD weaknesses... now I've got sibilance ... like porr matched B&W or japenese speakers... :eek:
    Midrange... seems poor now... :(

    The iPOD ones are not so good but a perfect match to the player sound and never get tired...

    Anyway, they are less sensitive to positioning.. half a victory inside my helmet...

    Anyway I left them playing all night to burn-in...
     
  2. Nic Rhodes

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    You should have bought the 550s :) B and O A8 and Etymotic ER6i are both more but both are good but different performers with the shuffle. I found the 500 were okay but the 550 were better in the bass. everything just a bit better. The sibilance is an Apple thing. You may find a cheap headphone amplifier works well but you probably don't want this if you are a shuffle owner, ultra portable rules.
     
  3. Falp

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    The 550 model is a 16 Ohm...
     
  4. Nic Rhodes

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    so? The tiny differences are just not relevant. The ER 6I is also 16 ohms, designed to be used with Ipods.....I think the A8 is 19. and they have bass.....;)
     
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    less impedance, needs more power, more distortion, less volume... the iPOD Shuffle is not a powerhouse...
     
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    It doesn't quite work like that FALP.

    Sensitivity is the important thing here, it DOMINATES power requirements. The amount of power we are talking here in TINY.

    If we follow your logic then we would all use 300ohm heaphones, we don't. Most designers (like me) will aim most headphones at 120 Ohm average, however we realise we can't be all things to all men hence we have different solutions to the problems (current / voltage amplification (TRANSISTOR OR VALVE CIRCUITS)) and we pick one of 4 basic impedences to aim at. 16 to 50, 50 to 125, 125 to 250 and 250 ohm upwards. With transistors we can generally hid several of these targets without too much difficulty, with valves we really aim at one at a time. Anything within that 'band' really should be a doddle for any circuit, even the 'baby' shuffle.

    So anything in the 16 to 50 ohm bracket should present a easy target. Hell even specialist like Etymotic are happy to produce their Ipod 'special (in white naturally) at 16 ohm. Have they got it wrong as the worlds leader? The shuffle is actually especially able in it's headphone drive. It has a different circuit to the other Ipods which is actually better especially at the bass frequencies. This is easily verified by simple testing.

    Also don't forget the shuffle is actifically limited for EU law so the circuit is able to much more than is allowed in the EU but is present in the USA models.
     
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    I am surprised. I use MX-500 with my Sony HD1 and I think that they are fantastic little headphones.

    Ian.
     
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    It depends on the 'sit' of the phone in the ears. I also agree that the iPod earphones are much less fatiguing, and generally sound 'nicer' despite being less transparent than the MX500.


    This is probably because for both falp and I, the larger size of the iPod earbuds fits the bowls of our ears better. For those who the MX500 fits well and the iPod earphones do not, they will perceive the iBuds to be lacking in bass and posessed of an undefined, tinnier sound because they aren't getting the correct fit to deliver the fairly decent bass that the iBuds are capable of. (And if anyone points me to the Headroom response plot again to prove otherwise, they measured it wrong.)


    The best option to reduce variability of fit is actually in-earphones. You might like to consider the likes of the midrange Ultimate Ears earphones, or the Shure E5c (do NOT pay retail).
     
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    That I could buy into to. Not all of these phones fit my ears, the A8 sounds great but isn't a great fit for me.
     
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    Both iPOD ones and MX500 fit well in my ears...

    But I went back to the iPOD ones, not so transparent, but allways sound good.
     
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    Why doesn't any body know how to unlock the volume limiter!!???
     
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    Are you sure... :confused:
     
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    My understanding was all IPods were limited due to EU sound regulations. Not 100% but 99%. It still goes VERY loud, more than is sensible to run the device at unless you want hearing loss, hence the regulation.
     
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    I Do, use Go Pod. :smashin:
     
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