Here in Holland the dealers are following the recent American price decreasements for the Pioneer HD-ready models: For example, the 4280XA which had a msrp of 2599,- euro's goes for 1999,- now. The 5080XA had a msrp of 3999,- and goes for 2999,- now. 1000 euro's off for the 5080XA, just like the 1000$ off from the Americans. This is to inform you English guys. Wait with buying, because most likely you'll see a sell-out soon too.