Question Securing stand mount speakers to the stand.

Jason72

Active Member
Hi,
I'm copying this question from another thread I posted on A.V. Forums. It has not received any replies so far but I consider it to be a very practical and important question.

I recently purchased a pair of Dynaudio special 40 speakers and in the last week a pair of Dynaudio 6 speaker stands which when filled with sand are very solid and heavy.

Basically I am terrified of having the Dynaudio 40's on the dynaudio 6 stands for fear that they will either fall or get knocked off the stands. I understand people often use 'bluetack or similar' but that still does not put me at ease. I would genuinely be interested in peoples alternatives. After all, you only need one young child to give one a shove at a social gathering and your looking at a hefty repair bill !! It genuinely confuses me that this subject rarely comes up on the Forums but it's actually one of my worst fears.
Gregory
 

oldcootstereo

Active Member
My Q Acoustics 3020s have threaded inserts in the bottom of the speaker so they can be through-bolted to the stand. If this is a major concern for you, either install some small blind threaded inserts in the Dynaudio 40s, as no one will see them and it won't affect the speaker enclosure integrity. Or buy speakers that have some sturdy attachment points.
 

Paul7777x

Well-known Member
Really... blu tac is all you need.

Put a good size portion in a plastic bag, (or two), then put the bag in a cup of hot, not boiling water.

Wait a mo until it’s really and truly soft.

Then make four generous spheroids (with clean, dry hands) and put them on the speaker stand a little bit in form each corner so it doesn’t squish out.

Then, making sure you have your speaker centred on the stand put some weight (lean on it) on the speaker to compress the blu tac.

Once gone off, give it 24hrs, it’s a tight sturdy join. After a few days, it’s more so.

They won’t budge, promise.

Ps, you might want to wipe down the stand plates with a vigorous isopropyl wielding cloth to eliminate any dirt\grease. Even if apparently clean.
 

oldcootstereo

Active Member
Bluetac per Paul7777x sounds more like glue than the ever-sticky goop used to hang paper and bristol board on blackboards when I was young... a half-century ago. Being a nuts-and-bolts kinda techie, I will use fasteners where I feel the need to ensure something with any amount of mass or cost stays put. The QA's have the mount attachment inserts, plus as many speakers, have inserts to fit either spikes or rubber feet.

Whichever way satisfies your concerns...

If you go the bluetac route, a definite yes to using isopropyl to degrease, assuming the alcohol won't attack the stand's finish.
 

Orobas

Active Member
alternatively.. squash balls cut in half and used in conjuction with speaker spikes are an interesting thought.. but definately blu or white-tack.
 

DT79

Active Member
I use blu-tack on my Special Fortys. I didn’t use Paul’s heating method, just plain old cold blu-tack. It’s very solid. I’m 99% confident that if someone shoved the speaker then it would not be dislodged before the point that the stand tipped over - after which you’re screwed anyway.

I’ve got mine in close up in front of the bay windows in the lounge, and on one occasion the dog was laying on the windowsill behind the right hand speaker and she saw a cat in the street. She went beserk, obviously (typical westie), and in her excitement she slipped and fell off the windowsill, hitting the back of the speaker on her way down. The whole speaker and stand rocked back and forth for a few seconds. We were too far away to do anything about it, so we sat on the sofa with our hearts in our mouths, but it was fine in the end. The point is, in terms of the speaker being blu-tacked to the stand, it did not budge in the slightest.
 

Derek S-H

Distinguished Member
Another +1 for Blu-Tack!

It's unbelievably strong and tacky, and unless your standmounts weigh a ton will pretty much ensure that they'll stay stuck to your stands.

I'd say it's at the bottom you need to focus on: make sure your stands are planted into the floor and don't rock or wobble hugely when nudged.
 

acgingersnaps

Active Member
+1 on the Blu-Tack. My speakers have been nudged a couple of times and have felt firmly attached. The only way they're going over is if the stand goes too.
 

wizball1974

Active Member
I used Velcro tape to secure my speakers to their stands. Dearer than Blu-Tak but it feels really secure. I bought the heavy duty tape, cut to size two strips per speaker. It's rated to hold about 14kg with that amount of tape!
 

SickSquirrel

Active Member
The problem with BluTack is it could stain or even delaminate the veneer of your speakers when you come to separate them from the stands. This is not an issue for cheap speakers with plastic faux wood finish's but your 40's may use real wood veneer...

I would not let that stuff near my Harbeth's!
 
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Jason72

Active Member
Hi SickSquirrel,
Thanks for the advice re the bluetack. It does seem to be a firm favourite with the Forum Members.
Could you please let me know what you use for holding your Harbeth's in place on their stands.
Gregory
 

Paul7777x

Well-known Member
It’s not a problem.

Assuming you are using metal stands you simply warm the top plate, gently, with a heat gun from beneath and the speakers lift right off with little effort once a little warmth, and therefore squishiness, has entered the blu tack through the stands.

Straight off. No problems.
 

daddy999

Standard Member
I bought monitor audio gold 100 stand amounted speakers that have stands designed to suit and bolts to fix accordingly. Result.
 

SickSquirrel

Active Member
Hi SickSquirrel,
Thanks for the advice re the bluetack. It does seem to be a firm favourite with the Forum Members.
Could you please let me know what you use for holding your Harbeth's in place on their stands.
Gregory
Have a word with Dynaudio, I am sure they will give you good advice with regards to your speakers.

You may be fine using BluTack, I just wanted to warn you what has happened to a few Harbeth owners who used BluTack...
 

acgingersnaps

Active Member
The problem with BluTack is it could stain or even delaminate the veneer of your speakers when you come to separate them from the stands. This is not an issue for cheap speakers with plastic faux wood finish's but your 40's may use real wood veneer...

I would not let that stuff near my Harbeth's!
If a tree falls in a forest... nobody will ever see under your speakers
 

Orobas

Active Member
As far as i know.. the dynaudio stands come with 2 options for mounting speakers onto .. spikes for the top plate and damping sticky pads .. i do know they can provide custom mounting plates for a good few models in their range so definitely worth an ask. Here is their direct contact us link Submit a request – Dynaudio
 

DT79

Active Member
The 40s are lacquered so at worst you risk marring the lacquer, which is on the underside of the speakers where no one will ever see.
 

SickSquirrel

Active Member
If a tree falls in a forest... nobody will ever see under your speakers
True but it affects resale value, the OP's speakers are close to £2.5k and he may want to maximise his resale value...
 

DT79

Active Member
True but it affects resale value, the OP's speakers are close to £2.5k and he may want to maximise his resale value...
I get what you mean, but leaving the underside of the speakers (any speakers - unless they have integral mounting points) in absolutely pristine condition and absolutely securing them to the stands may be mutually exclusive objectives.

If you advertise a pair of speakers as being in pristine condition except for some marks underside where they‘ve been blu-tacked to stands, then that won’t put off any sensible buyer, surely?

On the other hand, on the description for the Stand 20 (not the Stand 6 as far as I could see at a glance, so the OP should probably double check if the same applies) Dynaudio say that with the supplied rubber pads on the top, you can tilt the stand by up to 10 degrees without the speaker being dislodged. If that provides assurance enough, then no need to risk marring the finish on the underside with blu-tack.
 

Jason72

Active Member
Hi,
Thank you to all the Members who have posted on this thread and for all the great advice.
I did indeed contact Dynaudio who are going to supply me (for a small fee) with an 'accessory pack' (sounds ominous). I'll wait till that arrives and see what it contains. I will also go and purchase some Blutack just in case the 'accessory pack' does not 'do the job'.
I had a feeling that the subject of keeping speakers safe on stands would be of interest to some of the Forum Members and judging by the response I've confirmed that fact.
 

Orobas

Active Member
Hi,
Thank you to all the Members who have posted on this thread and for all the great advice.
I did indeed contact Dynaudio who are going to supply me (for a small fee) with an 'accessory pack' (sounds ominous). I'll wait till that arrives and see what it contains. I will also go and purchase some Blutack just in case the 'accessory pack' does not 'do the job'.
I had a feeling that the subject of keeping speakers safe on stands would be of interest to some of the Forum Members and judging by the response I've confirmed that fact.
Glad to hear you contacted Dynaudio and that they're sorting some bits out for you. As i mentioned on my last post where i put the dynaudio contact link in... they do dedicated top attachments for some of their higher end range like the Contour series so hopefully this accessory pack is of use to you :)
 

SickSquirrel

Active Member
Hi,
Thank you to all the Members who have posted on this thread and for all the great advice.
I did indeed contact Dynaudio who are going to supply me (for a small fee) with an 'accessory pack' (sounds ominous). I'll wait till that arrives and see what it contains. I will also go and purchase some Blutack just in case the 'accessory pack' does not 'do the job'.
I had a feeling that the subject of keeping speakers safe on stands would be of interest to some of the Forum Members and judging by the response I've confirmed that fact.
There are also these things, has anyone tried them?

 
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ozzzy189

Well-known Member
Tbf blu tack and squash balls will both ruin the timing of the speakers. Always been recommended for some reason and that's fine if you want to ruin your sound. For sound quality cones made out of hardwood are pretty much the best vfm upgrade. However I know you're asking about securing them to the stands. I'd suggest contacting dynaudio to see if they can factory install some threaded inserts that would be compatible with your dynaudio stands.
Edit : didn't read the second page after being so triggered about blu tack and squash balls. Happy to hear dyn will help you out.
 

acgingersnaps

Active Member
Tbf blu tack and squash balls will both ruin the timing of the speakers. Always been recommended for some reason and that's fine if you want to ruin your sound. For sound quality cones made out of hardwood are pretty much the best vfm upgrade. However I know you're asking about securing them to the stands. I'd suggest contacting dynaudio to see if they can factory install some threaded inserts that would be compatible with your dynaudio stands.
Edit : didn't read the second page after being so triggered about blu tack and squash balls. Happy to hear dyn will help you out.
Hilarious. Nice one
 

password1

Active Member
blu tak and/or double sided acrylic tape.. i use this tape on my car and nothing falls off doing 70mph on the motorway in all weather conditions. it can be removed with no marks.

the stands will fall over first with the speakers securely stuck on before the speakers fall off.
 

acgingersnaps

Active Member
blu tak and/or double sided acrylic tape.. i use this tape on my car and nothing falls off doing 70mph on the motorway in all weather conditions. it can be removed with no marks.

the stands will fall over first with the speakers securely stuck on before the speakers fall off.
Using blu-tack and/or acrylic tape, will ruin the timing of your car.
 

SickSquirrel

Active Member
blu tak and/or double sided acrylic tape.. i use this tape on my car and nothing falls off doing 70mph on the motorway in all weather conditions. it can be removed with no marks.

the stands will fall over first with the speakers securely stuck on before the speakers fall off.
What are you sticking onto your car with tape? Just wondering...
 

password1

Active Member
What are you sticking onto your car with tape? Just wondering...
side protection bars, bumper cover plates, door sill protectors. my dad's used it for the reflector things on the doors.

i recommended the tape to a friend and he's used it to stick a number plate on a temporary measure until he sourced a screw.
 

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