Quorra
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That is the price for 1 pb16 .. normally they are 2499 new each .. but during this sale if there are any no damage outlet ones .. they will be discounted to 1999 eachThat's about half what I paid!
That is the price for 1 pb16 .. normally they are 2499 new each .. but during this sale if there are any no damage outlet ones .. they will be discounted to 1999 eachThat's about half what I paid!
Pb16 output down low under 16hz turns me off a slight bit. But it all depend if you are short on output in the middle of the curveThat is the price for 1 pb16 .. normally they are 2499 new each .. but during this sale if there are any no damage outlet ones .. they will be discounted to 1999 each
If your rew sweep is good, see no reason to upgrade mate !I’ve a feeling I ‘may’ stick with Sealed but there’s nothing with U.K. availability that’s really pulling me in. Maybe the ‘next thing’ is coming along
I’m not sure if saying me and not upgrading should be in the same sentenceIf your rew sweep is good, see no reason to upgrade mate !
That's surprising. What do you listen to that plays below 16Hz?Pb16 output down low under 16hz turns me off a slight bit.
Movies.That's surprising. What do you listen to that plays below 16Hz?
OK, but that content would surely only be a tiny proportion of the LFE content of a tiny proportion of movies. I expect you could probably count the movies scenes on one hand that play below 16Hz, not least because Dolby Atmos commercial cinema installations are only specified to have to play down to 31.5Hz @ -3dB.Movies.
But those measurements are outdoor 2m ground plane, so you'll get more in room, but how much more depends on placement and room size. It's ported, so not huge amounts.
I think most of the people concerned with UULF are using BEQ to "recover" content. If you're using that then it's definitely worth it. It's also why people have transducers that operate to 10Hz and under, and why people build hoverboss solutions. It's why I care about a <10Hz response.OK, but that content would surely only be a tiny proportion of the LFE content of a tiny proportion of movies. I expect you could probably count the movies scenes on one hand that play below 16Hz, not least because Dolby Atmos commercial cinema installations are only specified to have to play down to 31.5Hz @ -3dB.
A suspended floor is your friend here. You won't get it on concrete I completely agree, but on joists you can. But that doesn't suit everyone of course. And bang for buck, absolutely the transducers take it.There is no way any sub will produce the tactile response I am now getting.
The crazy thing is the quake is only running at around 20-30% power, if it much higher I’d be rattling the fillings out of my teeth!!A suspended floor is your friend here. You won't get it on concrete I completely agree, but on joists you can. But that doesn't suit everyone of course. And bang for buck, absolutely the transducers take it.
I agree with this, you have to get the setting right so it doesn’t always draw attention to itself and just adds to the experience. I played about with slopes, crossovers, timing and gain until I was happy. I still have to turn it off if I’m watching something like Bohemian Rhapsody as the quake can’t keep up with my subs for these sorts of bass notes, but for everything else it’s awesome.That's always been my issue with them. I reckon lots of people have them turned right up and it's more like a fairground ride, that's not what I'm looking for.
Obviously that's a huge, sweeping generalisation and I could be waaaay off.
It sounds like you have it dialed in slightly more delicately which seems to me to be the right approach. I had to turn my subs down as they were vibrating the floor too much, now it's much more realistic. I aim for what it feels like when a large lorry goes past, close - not being on a bridge in high wind or going over a cattle grid.
Dodge, any reason why you wouldn’t consider a transducer?
I was against it as having tried and tested before, the sensation never felt natural. It had a mechanical feel to it, but this was before I understood what I was doing.
In my room now, you simply can’t tell the difference between my subs shaking the chair or my quake. I’ve managed to integrate them seamlessly. There is no way any sub will produce the tactile response I am now getting.
Put it this way, I visited Arrow-AV’s demo room yesterday where he had around 16 stacked subs. The bass was incredible, but the lack of tactile response made it feel like something was missing.
As far as my room goes and the money I’ve spent on equipment (and I’ve spent a lot!), the quake is one of the best upgrades I’ve added to my room and certainly the best bang for buck.
I know @steelman1991 feels exactly the same way.
A suspended floor is your friend here. You won't get it on concrete I completely agree, but on joists you can. But that doesn't suit everyone of course. And bang for buck, absolutely the transducers take it.
It's really just for the reasons that you've mentioned yourself. It just appears to be false and I don't want that kind of feeling. Plus, I don't fancy spending a lot of time attempting to get it just right. It just doesn't appeal to me tbh.Dodge, any reason why you wouldn’t consider a transducer?
It's really just for the reasons that you've mentioned yourself. It just appears to be false and I don't want that kind of feeling. Plus, I don't fancy spending a lot of time attempting to get it just right. It just doesn't appeal to me tbh.
I hear what you're saying. The other thing is, I don't fancy bolting stuff to my lovely leather reclining sofa and hiding even more cables. It's not a carpeted floor but a big rug.Get in touch with Chris @AmericanAudio, recently had a demo of my system and I think he'll attest it's anything but "false". In fact he seemed interested in building one for himself. Dialing it in properly is a must and I can see why that might of off-putting but for someone familiar with REW and setting up subs it isn't that much of a stretch.
How dare you say I'll be posting in the BEQ thread
I do see your point, I had a full on racing rig up until last year, VR, motion platform, etc, and yeah the level of immersion is insanely accurate to real life.I’d be all for it but watching on a flatscreen it’s just not for me as tactile from sound pressure/waves hitting you has a completely different feel to me compared to bass shakers vibrating what you are sat on.