Screen size for my viewing distance

Pulse1

Well-known Member
I probably won't go down the diy route, unless lead time is going to be an issue. I just want something off the shelf as it were. I've been on this project since last August, every weekend. Her indoors is starting to get a bit peeved!



Opinions on these two?

Or this

I probably won't go down the diy route, unless lead time is going to be an issue. I just want something off the shelf as it were. I've been on this project since last August, every weekend. Her indoors is starting to get a bit peeved!



Opinions on these two?

Or this

I contacted audiovisualonline a couple of months ago about the Lumene screens and was told at least a 6 week wait time as they come from France and they don't come with acoustic black backing, The Elite edge-free might also have a centre support bar? And the Elite ez-frame is a 16/10 screen and not a 16/9 screen. I was in the same situation as you a couple of months ago and ended up contacting Sapphire screens direct over the phone as they have the screens in stock and already in the Uk so no import fees and could get a screen without waiting. They are also the cheapest. At the end of the day it's up to you what screen you go for and wish you good luck in getting a screen your happy with.

Brian
 

alebonau

Well-known Member
see you are going with 16:9 screens, what are you going to be mainly viewing with the pj?
He is width limited I think, in which case always makes sense to go 16:9, as then get widest width scope could manage and also allows largest 16:9 image possible

otherwise you go scope in width limited setup and unnecessarily squish the size of 16:9 image poseible

if width is not limited folks go scope ... or if height limited usually :)
 

alebonau

Well-known Member
probably won't go down the diy route, unless lead time is going to be an issue. I just want something off the shelf as it were. I've been on this project since last August, every weekend. Her indoors is starting to get a bit peeved!
One of benefits of non diy route is being able to buy a known quantity something can actually see demo before buying. Wondering if have checked out any of the screens in question. Since after get it your are stuck with it :)
 

mb3195

Distinguished Member
If you want the best material, just go all out for dreamscreen v7. Miles better than any other AT material, so good you can’t even tell it’s AT, it just looks like normal material.
 

Pulse1

Well-known Member
No i haven't seen any in the flesh, that why i was hoping to get opinions here.
I never seen any in the flesh either as that takes time and how does that work with screens that aren't ready available anyway? In the end i just went with my own tthinking and purchase a blind buy screen and couldn't be happier. At the end of the day you have to make a decision or you won't have a screen.

Brian
 

ufo550

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This is not as easy as I thought it might be. I've tried searching, but can't seem to find anything thats reasonably priced, and available without long lead times.

So I need an acoustically transparent screen, 16:9 format.

Does the screen have to be suitable for 4k, or will most of them be suitable for that?
 

Pulse1

Well-known Member
This is not as easy as I thought it might be. I've tried searching, but can't seem to find anything thats reasonably priced, and available without long lead times.

So I need an acoustically transparent screen, 16:9 format.

Does the screen have to be suitable for 4k, or will most of them be suitable for that?
Sapphire screens are 16/9 format and are reasonably priced and are already in the UK so you could get it the quickest and according to their description are suitable for 4K. The best advice i can give is go with what you think yourself mate and just enjoy your new screen as there is always the situation could i have got better? And you are 100% correct it is not easy so i know exactly how you feel, but you can only go with other peoples opinions and experiences for so long as at the end of the day it's your hard earned cash and it's you that will be watching it. The questions i asked myself was is my screen the best? Answer was no, do i really care? Answer was no, but to me for my situation it is the best screen and i'm totally happy with it and have no intention of upgrading and spending more cash on something that might be better or not.

Brian
 

ufo550

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Luminated67

Distinguished Member
Think I'm gonna go for this one, not sure whether to have the 100" or go for the 120"?
Use the projector to screen calculator to determine where the projector needs to be to deliver the size of image you are after. Only when you know this do you buy the screen.


I think the equivalent version in America is the 675es and a 120” the realistic minimum throw distance is 3.80m, the minimum for a 100” is 3.16m.
 

ufo550

Well-known Member
Use the projector to screen calculator to determine where the projector needs to be to deliver the size of image you are after. Only when you know this do you buy the screen.


I think the equivalent version in America is the 675es and a 120” the realistic minimum throw distance is 3.80m, the minimum for a 100” is 3.16m.
Dooohh, that can't be. I don't want a 100" screen now!
 

Luminated67

Distinguished Member
Spoke too soon, after doing some measuring, my optimum size is 110" diagonal. So some more research needed :facepalm:
I think we have all been there. :laugh:
 

Luminated67

Distinguished Member
Dooohh, that can't be. I don't want a 100" screen now!
The advantage of the smaller screen is increased lumens which are more important for HDR content. Believe it or not you would have to move your seats only 12”-13” to get the exact same viewing experience as the 110” screen size.
 

Luminated67

Distinguished Member
^I wouldn’t say I’m that learned, though I am on a steep curve and learning quick. You have a native 4K so you could easily move your seats closer without seeing pixels grid and get as immersive an experience as you want so screen size doesn’t dictate your experience unless your seating is fixed.
 

mb3195

Distinguished Member
^I wouldn’t say I’m that learned, though I am on a steep curve and learning quick. You have a native 4K so you could easily move your seats closer without seeing pixels grid and get as immersive an experience as you want so screen size doesn’t dictate your experience unless your seating is fixed.
Pixels aren’t the issue with an AT screen, it’s the weave on the material which is.

cheaper screens will normally have noticeable issues. Usually you’d need to be 12ft+ away from the screen before it starts to subside h less of course going for a more expensive screen.
 

Luminated67

Distinguished Member
Pixels aren’t the issue with an AT screen, it’s the weave on the material which is.

cheaper screens will normally have noticeable issues. Usually you’d need to be 12ft+ away from the screen before it starts to subside h less of course going for a more expensive screen.

You are right I forgot it's an acoustic screen we are talking about. :facepalm:
 

ufo550

Well-known Member
Just as an update, I temporarily rigged up my projector and displayed a movie on the screen wall (currently white). I tried a 120" screen, and I could feel my eyes going all over the place. It was more comfortable with a 110" size screen.

So I've ruled the 120", and now looking for a 106-110" screen.
 

ask4me2

Active Member
120" picture, is that in 1.78:1 (16:9) or cinemascope (2.35:1)?

I have a little problem understanding the concept of creating a nice home cinema with the use of a projector if the picture [email protected] distance only gives a small enough view angle so you do not need to move your eyes and head to view what happens on the screen.

Some info from a Home theater geeks episode about screen sizes and Aspect Ratios

In real life, we need to move our eyes head and entire body to view all the time to get more of the information around us, and for me, some of the cinema experience is to get a different viewing experience than we do on smaller direct-view displays to get more into the movie feeling and quite different from watching VHS movies on a 14" CRT TV 40 years ago.....
 

Luminated67

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^Some experts will claim there is a golden rule for this but I am of the opinion it’s what you personally feel comfortable with especially in your own cinema room. If you seat in a commercial cinema you will find a seat row that works for you, I personally pick somewhere in the middle so I can see all of the screen though my eyes might move to different parts of the screen, I have tried closer but find I get a headache so designed my own seating to mimic what I liked in the local cinema.
 

ask4me2

Active Member
Yes I agree with you Luminated, that is the best part of having our own home cinema, (in addition to be able to pause the movie if we need to take a leak etc.:D),but I wonder why THX advises cinema designers and architects to accommodate only~36-degree horizontal viewing angle when a 146- degree arc, is close to the human horizontal field of vision and was some of the spec. for developing cinemascope.

The area we actually have a sharp vision is about 5-8 degree, so we need to move our eyes over the screen or all over the place in real life too.... :)
 

alebonau

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Yes I agree with you Luminated, that is the best part of having our own home cinema, (in addition to be able to pause the movie if we need to take a leak etc.:D),but I wonder why THX advises cinema designers and architects to accommodate only~36-degree horizontal viewing angle when a 146- degree arc, is close to the human horizontal field of vision and was some of the spec. for developing cinemascope.

Hi askme2 the thx 36deg if delve in detail is actually for back row ! Infact for certification will allow as narrow as 26 degree allowing for large theatres and folk sitting way off to side ...

The thx optimal is actually 40 degrees allowing for average vision (thx presented this at ces 2006)... makes sense if back row is 36 deg middle row would be around 40deg :)

Set my own screen width using this abs corresponds well to resolving power too as over resolves 2k giving some benefit for res beyond 2k. But not out resolving 2k so much it looks rubbish and leaves lower bandwidth streamed or fta tv just tolerable :)

personally pick somewhere in the middle so I can see all of the screen though my eyes might move to different parts of the screen, I have tried closer but find I get a headache so designed my own seating to mimic what I liked in the local cinema.

Same ... back row is just too far back front row too much “tennis effect” :D middle row just right :D

Agree re our own preference to :) we have choice to pick what best for selves and setting :)
 

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