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Saving Private Ryan R2 DTS

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by bowenjones, Jun 28, 2003.

  1. bowenjones

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    Been meaning to pick up the dts edition for a while now.

    Cheers for the heads up.
     
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    CD-WOW have the original realease of SPR with DD for £7.99 and the new DTS version with an extra documentary for £12.99 (£1 off each price with the usual link of course).

    I've read that the DTS track is supposed to be superb but reviews say the same thing about the DD track! I think it is a 768kbps DTS track vs a 448kbps DD track. I know the bitrates don't really mean much but I would be more inclined to believe that the DTS track was MUCH better if it was full bitrate rather than half.

    So, is it worth 71.5% (£5 extra on £6.99 price) more for the DTS version? (I don't really care about the extra documentary)
     
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    I bought the cheap DD copy from CD-Wow but have borrowed the DTS track and the difference is phenomenal - the DTS track (IMO) is MILES better. Will be replacing my DD with DTS as soon as financially viable (i.e. has got cheaper!!)
     
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    I found a review that goes into a reasonable amount of depth in comparing the two sountracks. Take note that the DTS track is louder and he didn't level match the tracks accurately.

    OT: One thing that put me off this guy was that he blamed the DVD for moire effects. That effect is normally the result of the display. I would thing the chances of it being part of the transfer are slim.

    SPR review

    The relevant section:

     
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    Just ordered the DTS version for just over £8 at DVD Soon!
     
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    I Don't wanna get into the whole DTS vs Dolby argument again but the guy in the review clearly states its not just louder he felt it was richer sound and more full blooded and a lot of people make the same claims, anyways why argue if u want the Dolby 5.1 version buy it i bought the DTS version years ago.

    I believe certain cheap dvd players can produce moire effects on certain television.
     
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    No-ones arguing it tbh:rolleyes:

    As for the comparison, I actually found the steering in the DTS edition more defined and crisp than the DD version.

    I'm lost with this comment:

    "Sounds seemed less speaker-specific and appeared to flow between the channels more smoothly. Ultimately this made the DD mix sound slightly sterile in comparison with the more natural and fluid DTS track"

    It's crap basically, "less speaker specific" tends to imply that the soundtrack is muddy, and the DTS track is anything but. The DTS track sounds to my ears more "neutral".....think he's got his soundtracks round the wrong way.
     
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    Foxy: I'm with Smurfin, where is the argument? It seems pretty clear that in this instance the DTS is better, it's whether it's £5 better. :) I know it's not a big deal but I like to get value for money.

    One thing I am concerned about is the video quality on the new R2 DTS release. As mentioned in some reviews the R1 DTS version has less extras and the reason suggested for this is lack of space on the DVD.

    I believe that the R2 DTS release is a standard DVD 9 and I would have thought that the same issue would be present, especially given the length of the film. Yet this new version has the DTS soundtrack AND an additional documentary.

    Will the inclusion of these not mean that the bitrate for the video has to be reduced? This can of course be checked by looking at the file sizes but no one is in possesion of the new R2 to see yet.
     
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    Don't forget Encoding has come on in leaps and bounds in the years which have passed since the original region 1 DTS version itll probably look and sound great.
     
  11. Smurfin

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    ^^^What Foxy said
     
  12. Daneel

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    I disgree. Encoding techniques have indeed improved, you just have to take a look at MPEG4 and related technologies to see what can be achieved with a small amount of data.

    However, MPEG 2 is still MPEG 2. I would not be surprised if you can now squeeze a little better quality out of the same bitrate due to better encoders but the fundementals of the standard have not changed so I would suggest any improvements will be small.
     
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    It's a 2 disc set so the picture should be fine.
    Disc 1:

    Widescreen 1.85:1 Anamorphic
    English - DTS
    English Subtitles
    Interactive menu
    Scene access

    Disc 2:

    'Return To Normandy' documentary
    'Into The Breach' documentary
    Cast and crew biographies
    Production notes
    Theatrical trailers
     
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    Thanks Marv. That makes a lot more sense. I had a look an a few sites but either none of them state it is 2 discs or I just missed it.

    Hrm, I just checked CD-WOW, it says 1 disc. Where did you see it was 2?
     
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    Here's a better look at the packaging thanks too me,


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  16. Daneel

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    Thanks Marv.

    Unfortunately by the time CD-WOW got my email the standard version had already shipped.
     
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    You can always sell the DD version if you ever wanna upgrade. I'am sure someone on Ebay would buy it.
     
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    foxy, does it mean that the r2 dts version is better than the r1
    dts version?
     
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    Picture should be better, as long as u can live with the 4% pal speedup the it's a good buy.
     

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