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Discussion in 'Motoring' started by Layne RIP, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. Layne RIP

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    Well by the looks of it the Government want to ban the use of any car over 10 years old.

    Sign the petition to stop the EU and our Brown nosing PM and friends from banning older cars.

    http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Classic-Cars/

    Frankly i can't actually see them implementing this as the way i see it, it would eat in to their pocket money too much... It'd price some people out of driving completely, so less money from road, petrol and insurance taxes.
    But if they did it'd be the end of many great cars in the uk.
     
  2. Solomon Grundy

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    a ridiculous policy from a ridiculous government...
     
  3. Daddy k

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    its fine for these t1ts who can afford new cars and all the other perks they get while rulling the land.

    some people cant afford a car newer than 10 years old, some just dont want one as they enjoy older cars.

    its so nice to know that our chldren will probably never become true adults, allowed to make their own choices in life as the government will have a rule in place forcing them have no free choice
     
  4. Ian J

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    This is a new one on me. Where's the evidence please ?
     
  5. williemaykit

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    If memory serves me correctly, I believe Singapore and Japan have similar policies and the people there seem to be happy. It was introduced as a way of keeping emissions down.

    I am indifferent to the idea. There are some cars that I believe should be allowed to stay on our roads like an Aston Martin DB5, the original Mini Cooper, or the RouteMaster but I draw the line at the Leyland P76 (one for the Aussies)

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Solomon Grundy

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    I think the Japanese system was brought in to keep the car manufacturing companies in business.
     
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    Any links to this government proposal
     
  8. Steve.J.Davies

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    Stuttgart tried a ban older cars and like topsy the thing is growing.
    Just news chatter I reckon. Nor is it new.

    www.mycarcheck.com/news/2007/02/13/cars-over-10-years-old-face-scrapheap/

    the greens would be up in arms as it doesn't make any sense
    see
    www.irishelection.com/11/old-cars-not-new-cars-should-be-the-priority/
    among lots of others.
    No government wants to hack off the green movement as they are (ab)using it push through so many other revenue raising measure, Toll tax, carbon taxes etc etc
     
  9. onewingedangel

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    I haven't read anything about a proposed ban on older cars, so I don't think theres really an issue here.

    In fact I'm all for stricter guidelines for olders cars - how many times have you had an ancient banger spewing god knows what into your car? And it doesn't get tested come MOT because its not part of the criteria. If a car can't meet a minimum spec, then it should have to be fixed/modified to bring it in line, whether the car is new or old.
     
  10. Solomon Grundy

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    Not too often...Buses and trucks are more commonly guilty of that crime...
     
  11. Daddy k

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    or new drivers pushing a new car, not knowing how to feel their new car enough so cant tell when things go wrong.

    i think our current system works fine, ie the mot. perhaps being stricter however with the mot.

    i think any car caught on the road without an mot, and then not re mot'ed within 7 days should be impounded.

    then rather than crushing the untaxed cars etc sell them in bulk to poorer countries that could benefit them, mind you id of thought there must be a nice backhander somewhere for the scrap value of the metal in all these crushed cars
     
  12. Layne RIP

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  13. Steve.J.Davies

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    Not sure what you are getting at - emission testing is part of MOT
     
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    Same around here too. :thumbsdow The buses we have are a disgrace, although most on our route are over 15 years old, so they'd be banned too. :rolleyes:

    Some of those signatories have rather unfortunate names. :D

    How does having a newer vehicle reduce congestion? :confused:

    I'd also like to know how its not going to cost the taxpayer a kings ransom when they are forced to buy a new car after ten years, especially when the one they own will have no residual value. Fair enough some people swap their cars like they change their underwear, but there are many who rely on a car and can't afford to run a newer vehicle.

    I own two cars over ten years old and both are maintained regardless of cost when in use (currently on SORN), I trust Mr O'Donnell will have plans in place to compensate clasic car owners for the loss of their hobby.

    As for public transport, he's obviously a Londoner as its virtually non-existant around here. My village gets two buses an hour (when they turn up), but the next village gets two a day!
     
  15. Sonic67

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    What about the energy consumed - and greenhouse gases produced - in manufacturing a new vehicle? And what about the energy used, pollutants released and rubbish created in scrapping it? It has been estimated that around 30-40% of the total greenhouse gas emissions over the life of a vehicle come from its manufacture. Scrapping creates large quantities of non-recyclable plastics, toxic heavy metals, asbestos, CFCs, PCBs and rubber products, all of which have to be disposed of. So you can argue that by keeping an old vehicle on the road instead of scrapping it and buying another one, you are helping to offset the damage done through its poorer fuel consumption etc.
     
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    But older cars only have to follow the guidelines for their time of manufacture - so can get away with things a modern car can't.
     
  17. SeanT

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    Amen to that, my MK I Fiesta has caused less damage to the environment in the last 25 years than any Toyota Prius so far with their hugely environmentally damaging (to produce) batteries - it also kills less trees than most diesels....

     
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    So my immaculate 8 year old motor with 25,000 miles on the clock will only live for a couple more years ? Come the revolution.

    [​IMG]
     
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    err like what ? they have to pass emission tests at MOT so what are these 'other things' ?
     
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    So, I take it there is nothing in this story, the only link available is to a year old story about some madcap idea from a few Scottish Councils specifically Edinburgh.
    Still, its enough to have another thread of Government bashing, just for fun.
    And before you have a go at me, I got so fed up with the way the Government was running the country I left, so don't think I don't sympathise, but I do like to keep my whingeing to things that really need complaining about.
     
  21. Daddy k

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    and the MK1 if driven right possibly gives better MPG,

    the vw diesel range put the prius to shame in the states,

    the prius is pointless, there many cars that do better mpg, and better for the enviroment when you take everything into account.

    buy a milk float, its retro, a bit different and you could fit quite a few seats on the back!

     
  22. Layne RIP

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    In the process of doing very much the same, for pretty much the same reasons.
     
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    if it gets rid of prats in morris minor 1000's I'm all for it....;);)
     
  24. Ian J

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    prats in rusty old Alfa GTV's too :D
     

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