Sauna and jacuzzi restrictions...

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  1. leamspaceman

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    I wondered what you all think of this.

    I've just joined my local authority leisure centre that's just re-opened and is now run by a private company although still owned by the council.

    I've joined it predominantly for the gym but will use the pool, sauna and jacuzzi.

    I used the sauna this morning for the first time and, as you do, got chatting to some people in there.

    I was shocked to hear that if you are in the sauna or jacuzzi at 4pm when there are children's swimming lessons in the pool, the staff ask you to vacate and go back to the changing rooms. This is because they are worried that some people might be pedophiles and will be watching the children whilst they have their lessons.

    I thought this was a wind-up so I asked the staff and they confirmed it.

    Nothing much shocks me these days but this has.

    Apparently some people refused to vacate and were threatened with the police being called.

    So the assumption is that, if you use these facilities during children's swimming lesson time then you're a pedophile!

    This is despite the changing rooms having children in there and the pool being used by children at other times.

    There's also no restrictions stated when you join.

    This won't affect me because I go early morning but I could see people who were affected were visibly upset that it had happened previously.

    I have to say I was pretty flabbergasted.
     
  2. 273K

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    No, that's not the assumption. The assumption is that the risk of one peadophile having access to children at the pool outweighs the risk of p*ssing off a few paying customers. Same reason there's a blanket ban on photography at the pool. I agree it's ridiculous and disproportionate. The mutual fear that seems to be growing between adults and children is not healthy for society.
     
  3. Fergal82

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    Utter madness but unfortunately indicative of the society we now live in
     
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    Who was it that you spoke to?

    The problem with these sorts of things is that someone somewhere in management sets a policy (ie - no others in during swimming lessons) and the policy is communicated but often its communicated without the reasoning of why the policy has been created.

    Staff are then ill armed for dealing with questions of "why" and being on the back foot many just make something up and these things develop a life of their own.

    I know when one of my former insurance clients stopped asking "where do you keep your car overnight" the call centre agents were saying that it was dropped because everyone lies and says "in the garage" even if they don't have one. In reality is that we hadn't rated on the question for years and dropping a question reduces call centre handling time, mean less people drop off on the website etc - so nothing to do with customer's honesty.

    I know with a friends kid's school they have a no camera policy for the navity play etc but sell a DVD of the event for £15. The claim is its for safety but then a peado could just by the DVD. So maybe its more about it being a nice money spinner?

    I cannot comment on if the reason at the pool is because of the "safety concern" or if they just don't want the distraction of others wandering round when they're trying to run a lesson with kids who are easily distracted and/or self consious but I'd take the reasoning with a pinch of salt
     
  5. imightbewrong

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    Our school has this policy but they don't say it's for safety - they say it's for 'copyright reasons'. They also have the £15 DVD. It's a real shame no one can film it as then we might actually get decent quality picture and sound.
     
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    What kind of access do they get from the sauna?
     
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    Perhaps it can only be accessed from the pool area? And they don't want people wandering about the pool area to get to and from it?
     
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    Wow so the pool goes into lockdown when a school comes in? Glad they don't do that at our pool - it would be unusable during weekdays.
     
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    Presumably if they kids are having lessons, they aren't unsupervised? So in the unlikely event there is a paedophile there, what exactly do they think they're going to do? Besides looking at kids in their swimming gear, which presumably they could do at most other public pools, or the beach or somewhere.

    Seems like a massive overreaction to me.
     
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    Serious question is all this paranoia a 'british' thing? E.g. when we go to France/Germany/Belgium/Swizerland you can e.g. get your camera out at the pool and take pictures without anyone raising an eyebrow. Though on the flip side they are way more prescriptive about swimming shorts style and whether you can wear a t-shirt 'near' the pool.
     
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    In the last pool we went to in Austria, you could see straight into the changing room showers from the pool.
     
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    So do they kick everyone out of the pool as well then ?
     
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    At our last one it was unisex showers.
     
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    Won't somebody think of the children!!
     
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    It's a fact that nonces love Jacuzzi. So I've been told.
     
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    Why are you asking me?
     
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    probably because you mentioned the chances of a paedophile having access to the children from the sauna, but I don't think it was directed at you only :)
     
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    Just wondering what you are picturing.
     
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    If only the OP had been a brown Pakistani Muslim, perhaps he'd have got a different reaction from those who replied...
     
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    Are you in the right thread? :confused:
     
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    I always try and make some 'toe contact' whilst I'm in there......
     
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    The sauna and jacuzzi aren't that close to the main pool where lessons take place but you can see the main pool from both.

    It's definitely not a logistical thing or an issue regarding being in the way of the lessons, health and safety etc. It is definitely because some parents have said they don't want adults (men and women) in the sauna or jacuzzi whilst their children are having swimming lessons because they don't feel comfortable with them watching and feel it puts their kids at risk. The owners of the leisure centre have agreed with this and have asked people to leave whilst the lessons are taking place.

    The other stupid thing is that the sauna and jacuzzi are both adjacent to the kids pool... so at any given time when you're in either there are kids in that pool.

    It doesn't make sense to me.
     
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    Maybe they should provide blindfolds to be worn by men whilst swimming lessons are taking place :D
     
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    If I ever find myself in the sauna at that time I think I'll wear a VR headset.
     
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    What the **** does that have to do with anything.
     
  26. IronGiant

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    I've no idea, there is no conceivable reason to post that other than to stir up racial tension. I don't even know what racial background the OP is from and of course it's got no relevance to this thread.

    I suggest: assume it was a mental aberration, we ignore it and move on.
     
  27. leamspaceman

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    I was wondering that myself... but realise that most discussions in general chat are just one comment away from all out war and closure :D
     
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    I'd funny that, but it's too close to truth... :(

    Back on topic, I did wonder whether this policy was LEA/parent lead. As when it was announced that schools had to watch children burn in the sun rather than help them apply a top up of sun cream.
     
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    Sorry for offtopic - the reason for the DVD only is likely two fold;
    1. there may be vulnerable children in the school, the person shooting the Video for the DVD will know who to avoid or to edit out.
    2. Alternatively it’s to encourage parents actually watching it opposed to having their iPads up in the air as too many can’t behave.

    Well that is my thoughts anyone.
     
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    It's 3 - £££££

    I love the way you say 'edits' and 'who to avoid' as if they don't just put the camera on a tripod and hit record, then pull it off straight onto a disc :laugh:
     

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