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Satellite finding boffins - help needed

Discussion in 'Satellite TV, Sky TV & FreeSat' started by Monty Burns, Sep 21, 2005.

  1. Monty Burns

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    Dear Mr Boffin,

    im nearly in tears and you can save me! :D

    The story so far: I moved to Germany and took my Sky+ box with me. I consulted some people on these forums who told me that I can get Sky still but, I may be pointing at the wrong Astra cluster and that I need to move it *roughly* East and down a bit. I was recommended to buy a Sat finder and that it should cost me no more than 20 gbp.

    So off I trotted to my local "Conrad" once I got to Germany (and found a flat with a satellite dish pointing at the wrong Astra cluster).

    w00t! There it is, blow me! A Sat Finder for 20Euro's ... nice I thought. So Tom Tom gets me home again sweet n sound. I plug in the Sat Finder and of course it goes mental - coz the dish is already pointing at the wrong cluster but it is getting a very strong signal.

    So, now I move the dish *very roughly* 10 degrees east and down "a bit". Hmmmm .... the sat finder is still going mental. Hmmm.... lets try pointing it at the ground, yup, still going mental.

    Now, I did a little research and having gone through this link it appears all is not as easy as I was first told.... doh!

    And finaly, here is the site http://www1.uk.conrad.com part number "940442 - ZA" for the Satellite finder. Sorry, tried to create a direct link but it would not work properly.


    Any ideas guys on what Im doing wrong? Probably lots!

    Many, many thanks in advance!



    Oh btw, during my googling I stumbled across this, not sure if its good for anyone here but it looks very techie:
    http://www.arachnoid.com/satfinder/
     
  2. Nick_UK

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    Sorry, but your link for the sat finder doesn't work, because it's referring to a "cookie" which is stored on your PC. I don't want to appear pedantic, but the words "going mental" aren't much use to really diagnose what's happening. If you'd like to provide a working link, and a better description of what the sat finder is doing, I'm sure that there's several forum members out there who can help :)
     
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    Still can't find it, sorry.
     
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    Really? I paste the part numbers into the "Part No Search" at the top in the middle and it works fine, everytime.


    And yes I had checked the url whilst you were replying and fixed it.

    Going "mental" ... yeah spose its not the best word out there ;) "Continual high pitch noise" as per the instructions that can be found that link.
    :)
     
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    OK, found it. Seems that you have to "zero" the finder (with no signal) first using the knob on the front, then the pitch of the buzzer will increase with the signal reading on the meter. This will only be of limited use, because there is a satellite every 3 degrees or so in the sky between 16E and 30E. A compass will be useful too, but there is a variation of up to 6 degrees between magnetic north and true north. You will get some reading from the meter even where there's no satellites, because of noise picked up by the LNB.
     
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    This is rapidly sounding like a "pay someone else to do it" situation :confused:

    It seems it gives me a reading of "beeeeeeeeep" no matter where the dish is pointing if the knob is above 4 or more, even when pointing at the ground.

    Maybe its a duff unit?
     
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    Look at where the sun is at about 12:00 (CET) and that is roughly the direction, then up about 30 degrees from ground level and you should be there or there abouts.

    No good if there are clouds as there are at the moment.

    The other way is to look at Satellite dishes around you, most will be German, but the odd one will point 10-15 degress left or right of it, that is where Sky (UK) is.
     
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    OOoooo OK ....

    30degrees is a bit steep init from Southern Central Germany?

    But, cheers for the info! The "bird" is out next to the dish at home making a mental "bookmark" now :)
     
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    South central Germany, I am in Munich and it is 32 degrees from there.
     
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    Excellent!

    Thanks for the info. Will have another go tonight (its gota be quicker than booking someone and waiting for them to come round) and let you know how I get on.

    Many thanks for the info.
     
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    Try this - it worked for me, put the signal strength on on your sky box, get someone at the other end to watch it. Phone them and put the dish in the aproximate position, keep moving the disk slightly until the signal quality improves, the change the vertical alignment of the dish until signal is at its best.
     
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    Aye, this was the plan with Jih's information. Hopefully when I get home in about an hour I can do this with my g/f. Luckily the TV/decoder is only about 10 feet from the dish :thumbsup:

    Im really tempted to just hang a white sheet up outside in the garden and project the lot so I can see for myself! :rotfl:
     
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    If thats the case just turn the sound up, as soon as you hear the EPG music, bingo
     
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    :eek: Nice one! :thumbsup:
     
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    So I followed all the instructions you guys helpfully gave me and still no luck. :eek: :confused:

    What to do ..... what am i doing wrong? Anyway, in the meantime whilst thinking about this my girlfriend shouts to me to shut the window in the conservatory as she has been unable to. "Why?" I ask.

    "Its cold and I tried and could not do it" :suicide: :mad:

    And finaly it becomes clear as to possibly why I might be having trouble.

    "When did you try to shut the window?"
    "A couple of days ago right after we moved in"

    The satellite cable runs out of this very small window above the door. You guessed it, she had tried so hard and some how not seen the thick, white, heavy duty cable and guess what .... yup the cable is hanging by about two strands of the wire. :thumbsdow :mad:

    Still, I suppose she is blonde.......


    Thanks for your help guys but I fear the greater sex has beaten us all on this one.

    Time to call in the professionals.
     
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    Just feed another cable to the LNB, should be okay then, make sure you drill a hole for it this time though..
     
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    Not my property to go drilling holes ... landlady might get a tadge upset :)
     
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    Use one of the flat cables from Obi that allows you to close the window properly.
     
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    Get the girlfriend to stand there holding the two ends of wire together while you watch tv... that'll learn her.
     
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    I like your style! hehehe
     

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