Samsung UE55F8000 55 Inch 3D LED LCD Smart TV Review

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      Reviewed by Stephen Withers, 8th March 2013. The Samsung UE55F8000 represents the current state-of-the-art when it comes to TV design - in terms of looks, features and performance. With this model Samsung has set the bar incredibly high this year and it will take something very special to knock it from its pedestal. Yes it isn't cheap but, frankly, you get what you pay for and if you're looking for the best then the UE55F8000 should be at the top of your list.
      Read the full review...
       
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      Thanks for that comprehensive review, has the stuttering issue been completely resolved then? and was there no hint of any of the usual suspects ie clouding, banding and bleed?
       
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      No stuttering at all and I was specifically looking for that after last year. There was also no banding and as I mention in the review the backlight was much improved with good uniformity and no obvious clouding or bright corners and edges. All in all the F8000 is an excellent TV and I could find very little about it to criticise.
       
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      Wow, that's great, is MDU, PB and CB enabled in all modes this year? MDU wasn't enabled in movie on the ES. Lastly how about CE dimming, is it still annoyingly present in Standard mode? Cheers
       
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      Blimey this has kind of come out of nowhere for me as I've had my eye on the F8500 plasma but this might just be my next TV, if I can get a stand wide enough to accommodate it in the corner of my room :rolleyes:
       
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      Steve this all sounds very good but people always say plasma has the edge over LCD when it comes to PQ so what's 'wrong' with the picture that makes a plasma TV better or is this a match for a half decent plasma? How would this compare for example to a Panny ST50 or VT50 in terms of overall PQ, would the Panny plasma be noticeably better and if so how? I'm just trying to gauge how good this really is I mean it's as good a review of a TV than I've seen in a long time but how good is it really?

      Cheers
       
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      Oh Oh, now you've done it :laugh:

      PQ on an LED wins for me on a good picture, the let down in the past has been motion, and off angle viewing for me.

      That's my last question, off angle, what are he blacks like? thanks
       
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      Apparently the E8000 disengaged micro dimming in the Movie mode. Does the F8000 do the same thing or do you have an option to engage it?

      Also, since many report more 'pop' in the Standard Mode, is there any reason why the Standard mode can't be calibrated to conform to Rec.709 while using micro dimming?

      Thanks!
       
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      Wow! This is "the best" most through review! Finally:laugh: Thanks you! :):):):)
       
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      Steve,
      Thanks for the review. I read you recommend setting sharpness to zero.
      Is zero the "neutral" setting without softening of the image? Or is the neutral setting (no sharpening, no softening) more intermediate, like 20?
       
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      Great review but I have a couple of questions.

      What does the input lag measure at?

      What are the blacks like when viewed off centre?

      What do the blacks measure at?

      Cheers
       
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      Thank u for the excellent review ( It took me by surprise :clap:). I' ve just noticed in the menu-settings of the f8000 the lack of the smart led (as the es9000), led motion plus and maybe the black enhancer functions ( is that true ? ) and from what I saw at the samsung's korean site there's a new crystal black panel instead of the traditional ultra clear panel ( confirm me that , :lease: ). And a final question before going to bed :I don't know How the microdimming really works in our samsung tv , Do we have to turn on the dynamic contrast and the black enhancer to make it operate??? or It runs automatically ???. Thank u again and sorry 'cause my ignorance about that :(
       
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      @Steve

      Can you tell me what probe do you use in calibrating the tv sets and if it is profiled to a spectro or not?

      Keep up the good work you do in there,:thumbsup:

      Thanks,
      Dan
       
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      Whilst Steve will do his best to answer questions here, when he has the time to do so, can I also ask that people read the review as all those questions quoted above are answered. Remember to click the Test Results tab to get most of the technical testing results.
       
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      Arh sorry I didn't see the results tap. :facepalm:

      Thanks
       
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      It isn't exactly obvious if you're not aware it's there , a link from the main review would be useful IMO (that doesn't just apply to this review btw)
       
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      Thanks for the excellent review. :smashin: This is the improvement that really caught my eye. The lack of backlight uniformity really wrecks what otherwise would be an excellent TV. It is about time that manufacturers get this problem solved.

      For what was said at CES I was expecting the Sharp TVs to be really in the top of the LED department. It is extremely nice to hear that there is going to be some good choice for LED. :clap: It seems that Korean is the new Japanese for the TV market.
       
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      77ms in gaming sounds shocking consedering the es8000 was around 31 I wanted this as a bedroom entertainment tv in the 40 inch but the input lag seems shocking
       
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      Does anyone know if pc mode is a new option on the es you could only get on that with a pc I want to use my 360 I can live with 41 ms but not 77 that's plain sluggish even for normal not competitive play
       
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      Price aside, I think this is going to take some beating for me this year. New telly is going to be wife-friendly, and the almost bezel-less look to this has her sold already.

      Given that all the stuff I care about, picture quality mainly, is catered for - we could have a winner. Just need to check down the back of the couch to make up my budget from £1.8k to nearer £2.5k!
       
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      I think I'll pass on this set due to the high lag, I'm very sensitive to it and play a lot of cod. I don't like using pc mode as IMO it degrades the PQ.

      Great review but I can't see it been that much better than my hx853. I'm not into all the gimmicks.
       
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      Is 41ms high lag? Open question.

      Edit: Re-read your point about the PQ in PC mode. What effect does this have on picture quality, in terms of the bells and whistles it turns off?
       
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      In my experience with Samsung tvs ( and I've had afew ), selecting PC mode seems to wash out the picture. It looks soft and the colours look washed out.

      Normal game mode provided a sharper more vivid picture.

      The last samsung I owned was the plasma d6900 and before that a led d7000. Maybe the es and fs range are different.

      Off memory you only have colour, contrast and brightness to play with. That's enough for most but it wasn't for me.
       
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      Hmmm, I haven't owned an LCD for a good 3-4 years so it'll be something for me to bear in mind. I game a lot - although not massively online anymore - so I'll have to demo this with an Xbox or PS3 to see if it's a noticeable difference compared to my V10 plasma in terms of input lag.
       
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      I think as Arenaman says, a lot comes down to preference. Personally I prefer the look of plasma, I find LCD always has a slightly processed and 'digital' feel, whereas plasmas has, for want of a better word, a more 'analogue' look. However that's just me and others, like Arenaman, will disagree as is their right. The F8000 is a fantastic LED LCD TV with all the strengths of that technology (brightness, no image retention, slim, energy efficient etc.) and all the weaknesses (black levels, motion handling, angle of viewing, response time etc.). Of course the upcoming Samsung F8500 plasma will have the same features as the F8000 (quad-core, Smart Hub, camera etc.) but also the promise of an incredible plasma image. We shall see...
       
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      Well using a sharpness test pattern generated by my Sencore MP500 signal generator I found that zero looked best, with clean nicely defined lines and no apparent softening or ringing (artificial edges). There was definitely slight ringing around lines at 10 and very obvious ringing at 20.
       
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      I can't for the life of me think why Samsung would want to disengage Micro Dimming Ultimate in Movie mode, so I will ask them directly and find out. Based on switching between Standard (setup correctly) and Movie (calibrated) it seemed to me that the Micro Dimming was engaged in both modes but I will confirm with Samsung.

      As for more 'pop' well that is probably just people responding to features like dynamic contrast and the fact that Standard is set with contrast and backlight too high. What you could do is setup Standard correctly (turn off all the 'special features', set backlight, contrast, brightness and sharpness correctly, select the Warm2 colour temperature and set Colour Space to Auto) and use it as a day setting. The Standard mode also has a two-point white balance control and CMS, so you could calibrate it to Rec.709 and D65.
       
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      It does seem that Samsung have dropped a few of the 'special features' but that's no great loss in my book. As for the type of panel I'm not sure, the F8000 review sample only arrived in the country on Monday and isn't even launched until April. Samsung only provided me with basic specifications but I'll check with them when I ask about the Micro Dimming Ultimate.
       
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      The F8000 has Micro Dimming Ultimate, which is what Samsung call their local dimming feature here in Europe, I can't really comment on the US but no one at Samsung has ever mentioned Precision Black Local Dimming to me.
       

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