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Samsung Sp46l6hx Questions

Discussion in 'Televisions' started by vipergrm, Oct 11, 2005.

  1. vipergrm

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    OK, maybe I should have asked before buying it but what the heck :D

    I bought one of these from Pixmania (awaiting delivery) but I have a few questions.

    1) Does this come with the stand as standard?

    2) If not does anyone have a stand for sale? :thumbsup:

    3) What is the manufacturer's estimation of bulb life?

    4) Are there any independant reviews for this set online? I can't seem to find one any where!

    5) What is it like when viewing games/Hi Def material?

    6) Am I asking too many questions?

    Thanks Guys! :smashin: :smashin: :smashin:
     
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    1. Bought mine from Comet, the stand was included.
    3. 45000 hours.
     
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    At least that's a start. 45,000 hours? Really? Other people seemed to have mentioned around 8,000 hours max? Are these sets just out?
     
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    Samsung are quoting 45,000 hours bulb life for the SP46.
     
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    I've played games through the PC on this set and the results were excellent - no lag at all.

    Pictures from DVD are excellent, via component superb and via Hi Def - eye popping! :smashin:
     
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    I've just been browsing around in general and it seems that DLP Tv's only last an average of 8-10k hours. I wasn't specifically talking about the Samsung set. That is really good news. Very well done for finding this out!

    What are the best settings for this TV? Thanks!
     
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    just be sure you arent succeptible to rainbows have a good viewing from several channels cause the first night I had TV i had no problem on MTV2 but then i started channel browsing and on several channels i noticed the rainbow effect, I am just hoping it settles down after a burn-in period.
     
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    I used the THX Picture Optomizer and this reduced the contrast levels to around 65-70% and the other levels to roughly around the 50% mark.

    Factory setting for contrast is particularly high at 100%.

    Many have reported that reducing the factory presets to reasonable levels can reduce the rainbow effct if you're susceptible to it.
     
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    Hi The Pauley, where can I get this THX picture optimizer. It sounds terrific! Just to re-iterate, has anyone found an independant review for this set? Seems rather odd that there aren't any available.

    One final thing. Is the picture MUCH better via composite than RGB? does Progressive Scan work with both composite and RGB?

    Sorry about the questions folks but I want to have as good a setup as I can. Thanks a million for your help so far! :thumbsup:
     
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    A very good point. I will be sure to check this. I wonder does the warranty cover rainbow effect :confused:
     
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    I don't see why it would. It's not a fault. It's an inevitable property of the way these TVs work. It's the individual people that vary in their susceptibility to this irritating (or worse, nauseating) effect; not the TVs - although it is true to say that some models use faster wheels and/or more color segments than others and this is likely to reduce the proportion of the population that will be affected. Which is why it's essential that you are sure that you and any partners/family (etc) that are going to share your TV with you, can deal with the way they generate their colour, before you buy. There have been too many sorry tales on here of people finding out too late, and losing cash as a result of either re-stocking, or having to sell, used.

    Knowing how these TVs work (and hence why some of us see rainbows) doesn't help me understand how anything on such a set might "burn in" and in so doing, reduce the visibility of the effect.
     
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    Maybe you become more accustomed to how the TV operates over a few weeks? Is that possible? Otherwise your theory makes sense.
     
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    You can get the THX optomizer on any THX certified disc, such as Star Wars, Terminator 2, etc. Just click on the THX logo on the menu screens to access it.

    And yes - the effect is much better through component than SCART. Very noticeable.

    I'm one of the lucky ones that doesn't see rainbows, but my mate noticed them occasionally on certain discs in the first week or so that I had the set. Now he can't see them at all - even when he pops on the same disc to try and spot them where he saw them before.

    As to something "burning in" to reduce the effect, highly unlikely, but one possible reason I've considered could be the colour wheel rotating more smoothly as it runs in.
     
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    Yeah you could well be right about the wheel. I'm quite slow in the head anyway so maybe I won't notice it :D

    I didn't realise composite was so much better. I take it my DVD player should have composite ports too or is it a SCART to composite lead I need?

    Can anyone recommend a good composite cable and where can I buy it from?

    I will definately check out the THX thing. I think my brother has T2 somewhere so I will use that when the set arrives. Great advice. Thank you! :clap:
     
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    You are confusing composite and component. :)

    Composite is the lowest level of video transfer. Component is better than RGB Scart but you will need a TV and DVD player with component connections and a good quality component cable.

    Cheers
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    Go for the Belden component cables sold on these very forums (see "Cable Power Buys").

    Stunning quality and outperforms all of the popular cable brands I've tested it against to date (8 and counting).
     
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    You are correct! I meant component. Apologies for that. I'll have a look now for the cable power buys. Thanks!
     
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    'smatter of interest how're you getting on with Pixmania? I've had the same TV on order since Monday and it's been Pending ever since. I've a sneeking suspicion Pixmania have ballsed up again and are saying they've got this TV in stock when they haven't....

    Yep. I was right. Got an email saying they don't have it stock. SO WHY DOES THE BLASTED WEBSITE STILL SAY IT'S IN STOCK?!? Sorry for shouting but I'm ****** off big time. ****s.
     
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    Bluecube - No need to apologise. Thank you for telling me! What the hell are they playing at??? I thought these sites had all their stock computerised??? They are getting an ear-full from me too. Maybe try and squeeze a freebie if its gonna take a while.

    I took mine through finance but it is in the same state as yours (pending).

    Did you find out if the TV comes with the stand???

    If they arse about, I may just cancel and either look else-where or possibly change to the Sony 50" DLP which I believe has only just came out for a similar price. Might be too big for my room though.
     
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    I've just checked my Pixmania account again. The status has now changed to "Approved" (must be the finance thingy). Beside it it says under stock "IN STOCK" but then beside that it says "AVAILABILITY - 8-10 days.

    What the edited by LV426 is going on??? :confused:

    Does this mean that my unit has been reserved and if I want to buy another I would have to wait (I hope it does but unlikely!)???

    If that is the case I will try and squeeze something out of them. Worth a try.

    no swearing, not even backwards, thanx
     
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    I just called Pixmania and the they said they were "having a few problems" with regards to stock of the Samsung 46" DLP. Looks like the status should have read 8-10 days a while ago. :mad:

    I was looking forward to getting my big **** off tv at the start of next week. Now I'm stuck with a 15 year old 21" Philips CRT that is about as bright as an eclipse :mad: :mad: :mad:

    Still, it's about £250 cheaper than Currys etc so it might be worth the wait. Once again, do you know if this comes with the stand???

    Thanks :smashin:
     
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    Hi,
    I'm waiting for my SP46 to turn up (view sig beneath). It has been reported by others that Samsung have been having supply probs with the tv (due I'm sure to its popularity). Well, it's not as if they'll be fined $300m for getting their stock in late!
    As for the stand..I'm not sure if pixmania do you know. If you look at the picture they have of the SP46 it does'nt show the stand. But I'm not sure. Best thing to do is phone and ask them direct.
    They have the new SP50L6HX in stock. Maybe you could change the order for another £150?Pixmania
     
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    Thanks slackbladder :smashin:

    I think I'll stick with the SP46. It's already quite possibly too big for my room so a 50" would be taking the mickey. I doubt they are in stock because don't forget that is what it said about the SP46.

    Status has change again on the SP46. It now says stock is due to arrive next Friday (21/10/05). I hope this is at least moderately accurate!

    Think I can just about wait that long. It is just very annoying when you order something that is IN STOCK but isn't, if that makes sense ;)
     
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    Hi fellow R.Projecteers..... I have NEVER, EVER heard about a r.proj. bulb that lasts more than 10.000 hours... I am PRETTY sure this must be a mistake made by the "customer communication centre (samsung support?)" .. The lamp in the SP46L3 model (HD3 Chip) lasts approx 8.000 hrs, which is a very respectable lifespan for this kind of lamp.. I cannot in my wildest imagination imagine ANY r.proj. lamp last for 45.000 hours.. Seriously.. this has GOT to be a statement made on a bad day from someone who does not really know what they are talking about ...

    Don't you agree?

    (I'm waiting for my 50L6.. saw it in Berlin (IFA) ... can't waaaait!!)

     
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    When the original e-mail was posted on the forums I checked with customer services at Samsung and they confirmed 45,000 hours was indeed correct.
     
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    Maybe things have moved on since pstraums' last Projector TV :confused:

    If indeed the bulb does need changing then surely you could ask Samsung for a contribution because if pstraums is right, then the 45,000 hours is seriously mis quoted. I hope Samsung are right though ;)
     
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    Trust me they are not... I work for a Samsung distributor in one of the Nordic countries.. and this would be a SERIOUS "sales point" in comparison with our competitors.. Had this been the case, Samsung HQ would have informed us a long time a go.. And Samsung would have boasted about it on the "sales material" at Cebit or IFA) It`s just a plain mistake from someone who has misunderstood, or had a bad day at the office).. The good news is that the bulb seems to have dropped in price (at least where I live, where these bulbs has had the price of a cheap 27 inch LCD TV only 9 months ago.. now Samsung are one of the cheapest in the biz (although there might be local differences in pricing, ofcourse) !
     
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    Sony are quoting 30000 hours for the 3LCD rear projection lamps.

    Cheers
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    Ok, I'll doublecheck :) .. but I wont forgive Samsung if they forgot to tell us this !! ;) This is NOT the kind of news you keep secret.. This is the only reason NOT to buy a r.proj. TV, if the bulb is too expensive.. (although it`s a great buy even if the result of the investigation say "8000" hrs...) £200 every 3-4 years is not expensive for a 50" super HD-TV! compared to cheap 50" plasmas which does not even compare image quality wise... I'll be back :)
     

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