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Samsung PS42S4S

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by kocl, Aug 4, 2004.

  1. kocl

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    Anynone see it, is any good?
    The datasheet are very impressive.
     
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    No, but if its similar to the above it is very good. Is it a Plasma by the way?
     
  3. kocl

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    I don't know if two models are equal, they have an alis and non alis.
     
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    sorry to sound stupid, what exactly is alis?
     
  5. kocl

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    Alis (Alternate Lighting surface) is a technology used by some manufactors.
    This is a new model.
     
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    I have just bought the Samsung PS42P4AX and the picture quality is fantastic. Only problem that I have is that I am waiting for the stand to arrive.

    Any one have the same TV? The biggest gripe I have is that there is a really annoying buzzing sound coming from the back of the unit. Just waiting for a Samsing egineer to come and have a look. Any one else having this problem?
     
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    I don't know how different it is to my model but so far I have no probs with buzzing noises.
     
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    the
    Samsung PS42P4S and Samsung PS42S4S are out of date models
    they have been replaced with the Samsung PS42V4SX
    PS42 stands for Plasma Samsung 42 inch
    the next letter/number is the model S4 comes before V4 so S4 is older
    and the letters on the end indicate the extras that come with it
    (S= silver, X= stand, A= speakers)

    I don't believe there is an alis/non alis variations between models
    here, more likely the dealer made a mistake with the specs.

    The P4 and S4 models are famous for buzzing very loudly.......don't buy them.
    (P4 = generation 2, S4 = generation 3, V4 = generation 4)
    If you just purchased a generation 2 P4 model, I hope it was very cheap as
    the V4SX models can be had for £1729 delivered
     
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    I did pay a lot more than that over £2000 :oops: . If the Samsung engineer cannot do anything about the buzzing, then its going back. :mad:

    Apart from that (and the price) I am really happy with the unit. :thumbsup:
     
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    pjclark1, do you have this model then after all of that clearing up?
     
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    Can anybody tell me if there are component sockets on this model?
     
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    I'm sure I replied to this, but my posts seem to have been removed???

    Anyway, the full spec for the new Sammy appears in the link below. The model does seem to have component connections.

    http://www.digiuk.com/productdetail.asp?id=2126
     
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    i thought you had but i couldn't find it anywhere!

    thx
     
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    You sure that's correct, while the 'V' may have come out after the 'S' according to Samsung the 'S' is the better TV and IS a 4th generation plasma with dual tuners and DCDI technology and some other bits and bobs the which the 'V' does not have.

    Also if that's true, how come the 'D' which was available early on to some retailers but now only at curries in black is a later model than the 'P' and the 'S' and I am pretty sure the 'V' as well,yet starts with a 'D' ?

    Also you see to be contradicting yourself to some degree as in another thread you state
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    the S has generation 4 screen, generation 1 DNIe pro, DVI
    the V has generation 4 screen, generation 2 DNIe (not sure tho on DNIe)
    the D has generation 4 screen, generation 2 DNIe, PC in socket, DCDi

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    Yet in this thread you state the S is a 3rd generation screen.

    Also I actually think you will find the 'S' does have DCDI, according to Samsung it does it clearly states

    Display Scan - Cinema Progressive, DCDi
     
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    thats an old post you quote first and does contain an error as clearly all the models wth the 4 are generation 4, as for the order of release, that was correct as Samsung had been working their way through the alphabet until they departed with the "D" model. I suggested the "D" could stand for Dixons, as many manufacturers release models with small cosmetic differences to the Dixons/Currys/Comet group to stop people asking for price matches (so much for their price match promise) but that's just my pet theory. I think you will find they all have dual tuners. This is Samsungs response to an email from me asking for the difference between the "P" and "V" models

    "Thank you for your e-mail regarding a Samsung TV.
    I can advise that this model has 1 year guarantee.
    There are no majour differences between these two models.
    I hope this information proves useful."


    As no 2 internet sites seem to have the same specs for the same Samsung models, it is hard to be exact. As for the "S" model having DCDi, all I can say is a few weeks ago the samsung site did not have that included in the spec, although now it does. Makes you wonder if Samsung know their own model spec.

    I would never buy a Samsung unless
    1) It was from an internet site
    2) The site listed a full spec. that I could print out. (before placing my order)
    Then when it arrives with only 1/2 the features and inputs listed in the spec, I could return it under the sales of goods act, at no cost to myself.
     
  18. Dextur

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    I think for sure there seems to be a lot of confusion over Samsung models as Samsung site itself is not up to date and conflicts with dealer tech specs on the same models.

    From what I can see, but lord knows as there are webstites with wrong images applied to different models etc BUT

    The V is the consumer product, well equipped, BUT not as good as the 'D' product which has a number of features like DCDI etc, (Samsung either dont' consider this technology that they paid to have in their tv's a 'significan't difference or the guy you spoke to just said what first came to him.(This would not surprise me with my experience so far with Samsung)

    The S product looks to be a slightly nicer product, with pretty much a 'D' spec but supposedly HD compat, but I questions this also (2 conflicting editorial reviews) It also has DCDi, and twin tuners, the V supposoedly one tuner according to Samsung .
     
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    Dixons/Comet/Currys only sell consumer products, by your theory they would be selling the "V".
    When have you ever found these muppets ever selling a superior product?
    paying £500 for DCDi seems a little much (do you care if diagonals look a little jagged)
    The inputs on the "D" and "V" are exactly the same as far as I know
    1 s-video, 1 s-video SCART, 1 RGB SCART, 1 component (3 x phono), 1 DVI
    NO PC D-sub 15 pin input on either, NO 3rd SCART (these were on the "S")

    and finally
    my local tv shop is selling the "V" model at its' RRP of £2250
    and Currys are selling the "D" model at £2250
    compelling evidence that "D" is their "no price match" model
    (high street shops have a 50% -100%+ markup, internet shops often only make 5% - 10%)
    so I am assuming Samsung are flogging these to dealers for £1100
     
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    I'm not trying to make a theory, I'm simply stating that the V is a great all in one at a cheap price and yes I said exactly the same thing to the samsung rep today that i was surprised currys didnt' opt for the V as a bigger seller as for the majority of people who buy from curries would opt for a £,1750 if the only difference is dcdi and twin tuner.

    The S you can get for about £300 less than the D' , I guess this could be simply cos the 'D' is newer and the prices dropped on the 'S', you can pick up the 'S' for about £1950, the V for about £1750 and the 'D' for about £2,250 give or take, it would seem that to all intence and purposes the S and the D are very similar but the S seems to be a fair whack cheaper.

    Yeah I think the 'S' does have 3 scarts, 2 rgb, i downloaded the entire manual but it';s very hard to tell as it's more of a generic model manual so again not entirely that helpful.

    I think, but frankly it's impossiible to know as I don't even trust Samsung, that the S is basically a good cost effective option if you want twin tuners, the DCDi, and slightly more attractive case (shades of stark) and supposedly, but i don't believe it, it's HD compatible and the V or D are not.

    Such a mess with these models IMO, but the reality is that people who bought a 'D' over and 'V' need not feel they got a duff deal, they did get a better TV and it is 4th gen..
     
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    Yeah, I don't think the D has anything to do with it being from Dixons as the 'D' was out a fair time before it became a curries/dixons only group product.

    The guy I spoke to today who was selling the 'D' (still has 3 in stock) says they purchased them via normal samsung channels, but when he rang them today his account manager told him they were not allowed to buy them any more as it was now a currys only product.

    To add confusion to this, he also mumbled something to the effect that, they could still buy silver ones as Curries had only wanted the rights to the black ones..

    Seems odd to me as silver is the new black as they say, I would have thought that they silver would have been more popular but I swear these Samsung people just say the first crap that comes into their heads.
     
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    Go Figure, like I say, total minefield, I honestly dont' trust a word Samsung say and am more than a little anxious at trusting any site as the contradicitons between each can be huge at times.
     
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    After reading all the threads on these models it makes me think "why buy a plasma from a company that can't even keep their website up to date with accurate product information?"

    They might have a fantastic product(s) - but if I'm not /exactly/ sure what feature they support I wouldn't pay 2K for one!

    Zed
     
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    Yeah, to some degree I would agree, it's certainly made me wary that's for sure. Why buy? Basically a very high specced 42" for very little cash. Lets call it toy greed :)

    Despite their website being about 2 months out now, it's still worth investigating due to the price, features and functionality offered for less about £1,700 quid for a full featured out of the box solution.
     
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    at least we saving money all the time, last week it would have cost £1730
    now it's down to £1650 ..... that's a £80 saving. The photo of the back of the "D"
    shows DVI, 15 pin d-sub, s-video, 2x composite, 1 component, 2 SCART
    and only 1 tuner (bit of a surprise there)

    (I beginning to feel like Sherlock Holmes, pass me that opium pipe Watson!)
     
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    Hicksy has kindly confirmed
    The back of the "V" Samsung is identical to the "D" Samsung
    exactly the same inputs!
    "V" £1650 (QED)
    "D" £2250 (Currys)
    difference silver/charcoal and £600

    I know which one I'm gonna get!
     
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    Just persuaded JL to price match Miller Bros on a PS42V4SX at £1999 incl 5 yr warranty. I know its available online around £1750 but the peace of mind of a JL purchase with 5 yr warranty seems well worth £250.Lets hope I'm pleased with the product when it arrives! :rolleyes:
     

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